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Reply all with yet another zinger. Then they'll all lift you up on their shoulders and carry you triumphantly to the UCB theater
HR ladies? Grow up
Don't respond to her response. Or delete your response if you can. And absolutely stop saying Avant Garde. Please.
Wait what’s avant garde about the joke? This is the oldest and least funny joke in the book
Jay Leno would have thought this joke was hack in 1985
Avant garde envelope pushing = racially charged toilet humor? Ok bro.
How is it racially charged? It’s just the ol’ spicy food joke isn’t it?
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Avant-garde does not mean potty humor in the workplace. You can be avant-garde and still behave like a grownup.
Not a fireable offense but a lame joke that made things awkward for a co-worker. The fact that you ran to this forum to double down and complain instead of just apologizing to your co-worker and team is pretty revealing.
We are allowed to say what we want. Other people are allowed to respond to what we say however they want. Sometimes that’s reasonable, other times it isn’t, but it’s worth engaging with in good faith either way.
“HR ladies” also you’re a misogynist
What is “an opposing team”? If you work at the same agency, on the same pitch, one team, one dream! The opposing team = other agencies…
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I read OP’s argument as - rather than defending that this was a great or appropriate joke - that in a highly creative, writers room type environment, you should not get offended, no matter what is said… because ultimately if people are afraid of offending each other, they hold back, leading to less boundary pushing work. I do think there is some validity to this, but really only works in very specific circumstances. (in this case, instead of being offended, the person would have just given him shit right back)
@fl cd. You’re, as expected, over thinking this. Multiple things can be true. Subjective things aren’t one or the other and OPs situation is not the run to write your thesis on. I also bet if you posed this in a status meeting your team would roll their eyes and mock you after they complain about wasting another hour of their lives.
It’s a fine joke if you’re in the 70s. Either in terms of age or in terms of era.
So, in short, the shit hit the fan.
Put the Joe Rogan down, bud
That was a trash joke.
I’m surprised you were hired.
Can you imagine what they are saying behind his back
There’s a good chance that someone from my agency or this pitch will read this. I’ll just say, you’re either avant garde or you’re not, you guys hired me for a reason. You can’t say that you want envelope-pushing work when you hire me and then clutch your pearls whenever anyone in the office joshes around like this.
I’m not saying this can’t be worked out. I’m not getting all butt hurt and saying I’ll take my talents elsewhere. I’m saying that you have to foster a culture that is conducive to the kind of work you want to create.
I need HR ladies and recruiters to get this. I am exhausted by the hypocrites in this business.
Anyone who accuses HR for not being cool with “Joshing around” is not someone I would accuse of being avant gard.
But congrats on your brilliant poop joke.
This joke made me laugh. Anyone who actually takes offense to it needs to get a life
Someone had a bad experience with Mexican food. ^
op is trolling…and they are doing a great job
@Ogily2 You’re saying the mere presence of intrusive thoughts is enough of a reason to not be allowed to work for any agency?
You’re part of the reason David Ogilvy is no longer working in this business today.
Either this agency wants to be known as the “bad boys of pharmaceutical advertising,” or they don’t.
Keep going, theyre funny
“My last role? Pfffffft, well, I was fired for being too real. Yepppppp, certain foods make your toilet go crazy. But the woke mob doesn’t want me to point that stuff out. As a comedian, I’m something of a modern day philosopher….”