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My final round with Deloitte for UK Tech Consulting Manager position soon. Strangely it’s not a PMD round as it usually is for other Big4/tech consulting firms.
1. Can anyone tell me if they’ve been through the whole process without speaking to PMD? (First round Sr Manager, second Case Interview by a manager and third again by a manager) 2. What is a typical salary to expect? I was asked in screening but kept it vague (e.g can discuss later bla bla). I was hoping 75-80 (ridiculous?)
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I just turned 34 and was promoted a few months back to a director. I never want a promotion ever again in my life. I feel done and don’t know what to look forward to in my career.
I did the retire/step down option. It is freeing. For the first time in my life I'm focused on me and my family and what makes us happy, not what can get us further. Stress does not equal success.
If anyone wants to speak to me about this - I work with professionals who want to set up a “Portfolio Career”. This is basically where you plan out your career to have multiple revenue streams, work your own hours and have the flexibility to do what you want.
I walk them through the process and work with them on discovering what options they have. Most people don’t realize that they have hundreds of options to choose from!
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Wow I could have submitted this. About to be 38, very burnt out. Spent my 20s and early 30s getting promoted. Now I daydream of working in the library.
Do you all want to exchange place with me???? I want to be VP so bad and after that I plan to retire and concentrate on my own business.
38 club here! High achieving kiddo that kept being told “you’ll run the world someday, do more more MORE” well now I’m burned out and tired of being screwed by recessions and national/world crises and all I want is a job that I clock in, do well, and clock out. Nothing following me home, no stress, good wlb. And my current job has that and I love it. But it also just barely pays the bills. So I’m stuck in that same do I go for a promotion for a job I don’t really want but has a better pay, or stay in a job I love but end up stressed over finances quandary.
My benefits company offers free advising, and he asked “so when do you want to retire? 62? 67?” I told him “Oh hell no. Yesterday. I want to retire yesterday.”
This. So much this. Wanting to retire yesterday but due to all of the economic garbage we have seen/experienced in our lives so far and feeling more like never actually being able to retire is going to be the reality, which just makes me more burnt out just thinking about it.
I’m slightly older at 48 and looking at an impending move to another state. As I look for jobs I’m looking at company culture and benefits. For the past almost 20 years I have worked at two different companies that have treated me as less than. For the second half of my life I want a fun job where my talents are appreciated. However, I dream of the day I can retire. You are definitely not alone. I wish America treated people the way Europe does. Money is great but it’s not everything. I want to live a fulfilled life with friends, family, travel and laughter. Not stress and sadness. Hoping a fresh start in a new state will help.
Purely financial. Wanting to get a few more things paid off before incurring more costs.
35 and so tired of the work stress over things that don’t really matter. Seeking to optimize my finances so I can do more of what brings me joy and less of what brings me unnecessary/unhealthy stress.
Same same.
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I am a bit older and was VERY interested and motivated to replace my previous job (laid off last august) After searching for more than 6 months, I am now looking for part time and would take $16. Having this time off has seriously changed my perspective regarding work.
In my third year of my career and already feel this!
I was so here just recently. In my early 40’s and I thought my career needed to progress as I get older so I reached and got it. Only to realize it’s not what I wanted after all. The higher the position, the more responsibility there is. I value my life outside of work too much now to dive into a leadership position. So I left that position and went back to my former position being an individual contributor. Love it and love my work life balance again!
KPMG1 - same here - the simple things like being able to go for a walk are the things I value. The manager position I took - when I was in it for the 2.5 months I was in it, I worked such long hours that my family never saw me. And I work remote! How sad is that. I found my kid curled up and sleeping at my feet one night under my desk bc she missed me so much and said she hadn’t seen me all day. I almost ran her finger over when I rolled my chair under my desk. That’s what did it for me. I realized I can’t do this anymore. I still carry so much guilt thinking about that situation. But I needed a wake up call. I got the ball rolling to return to my prior job bc I knew that’s the easiest and fastest way out of my situation. It’s worked out so well. I returned with a 10% bump in pay as well as a sign on bonus.
I had to double check and make sure I didn't write this, because also 38 and feeling the same way!! Position was eliminated this week and every time I read job descriptions for what I'm applying to, I feel my soul dying inside. I've honestly wondered if I should go back to serving or bartending like in my younger days. No advice or wisdom to share, just letting you know you're not alone!
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I honestly don't even know!!! I'm lucky in that my severance buys me some time to be really thoughtful about my next move. I'm working with a career coach who specializes in working women and helping them redefine their strategy. Also trying to think of every possible option I have to be my own boss. What skills do you have? Want to start a small business? 😂
I'm in the same 38 and I'm feeling the burnout. I start looking at my surroundings and find myself saying " I could cut that out to save money" as a way to visualize the hypothetical.
I feel burned out to. 39 years old. About to be 40. I climbed to the top of the ladder of a dead end job and think I’ve put my life on hold, my family on hold, myself on hold. And all for what. I’m easily replaceable. Maybe it’s time to move on and find something else.
Just turned 38 and the last 3 years I’ve felt this. I want to make more $ but I don’t want the responsibility of a director being always on. I really do wish America valued work life balance like other countries. It’s very tempting to consider moving.
Have you looked into the F.I.R.E movement ? This is my goal. I’m 39, and it’s working for me. I drastically reduced my expenses following this plan.
FIRE is a movement that prioritizes saving and investing 50% or more of your income so that you can retire early.
FIRE followers dramatically reduce their expenses, seek ways to increase income, and invest heavily.
Many FIRE followers also go by the rule of 25, saving 25 times your annual expenses to retire, and the 4% rule, withdrawing 4% or less per year.
Financial Independence Retire Early (FIRE) is a movement that prioritizes saving and investing 50% or more of your income so you can retire before you’re in your 60s. You can say you’ve reached the FIRE finish line once your savings can cover your expenses post-retirement, with inflation factored in.
So, for example, if your monthly expenses are $6,000, you multiply that by 12 to get an annual expense of $72,000. Multiply that by 25 and you’ll have your FIRE number of $1.8 million.
I’ve thought this a lot over the years when I’ve had sticky points in my career. But I’m reminded that I am the same person whatever job I do and I know I wouldn’t just settle for something easier, I’d try to be changing and improving and spotting inefficiencies. I just wouldn’t be able to do less for less.
I also know my siblings in lower paid roles with more regular hours have different pressures.
I’ve found it better to aim for control in your own role and empower yourself to make steps towards balance than look for the exit. 43 and a Partner and I practice “care less” every day, it helps
@Director 9 some feedback I once received was “you give so much of yourself to your team, is there any left for you?” It really resonated with me. Remember everyone is paid to do their job, part of your job is to trust them, let them and help then develop. That’s not doing it for them!
I, personally, never cared about titles nor promotions. The pay bump would be nice but more money, more responsibilities. I'm sure this may hinder me in my career a bit but I just value my finite time so much more.
Same here
Oh I’ve had so many dreams of working at McDonalds over the years
I can tell you my ex husband is a manager at McDonald’s and he started as a regular crew member, he hates it, even after the promotion lol. We all get burnt out.
Yes to this!! I just turned 40 and started looking at our finances like ok, if we pay this month extra each month we can pay off our mortgage in 3 years.. I need to see the light at the end of the tunnel so we can get out of the hustle culture and just have to pay for the basics!!
I’m 40 and feel this so deeply
Wait until you are in your 50’s and you’ve been at it for what feels like forever. I can see retirement now, so I feel like it’s downhill. Do whatever you can to save and make money now so you can retire earlier.
Thank you for posting this. I feel the same way. Ive been career focused my whole life but now that Im here I don’t want it anymore. I don’t like managing a team. I don’t like having so much responsibility. I wish I could go back to being an administrative assistant where I actually felt like I was making an impact by helping someone else. Could also be that no one respects recruiting on the candidate side or internally. Feel you!
Lol I’ve done this too!
Found my support group it looks like. Early 40s. Even those closest to me like my spouse, makes jokes about how I’ll run the world and never retire because I like to achieve too much. They see the hard work and promotions. I see that everything is pointed toward retirement funds and that I’m half a decision away from running away to join the circus.
It’s a heavy burden isn’t it? I completely feel you and can relate too.
OMG this is so me right now. I am 38 about to be 39 this year. Currently pregnant with #3 due in August. I currently WFH so it is hard to actually leave a company where I can WFH, but I am so ready leaving all the stress that this job have and just retire, take care of my kids and probably have easy job so I can concentrate on my kids and family.