I've been at an IPGHealth agency for 2+ years (fully remote), now at $162k. Our client brings us eight figures annually.

I received an ACD offer from VMLHealth. The bump is small ($6k, which is almost what I'd be spending on my commute anually from Long Island anyway), and they're asking for 2 days in per week.

I genuinely love my manager and team, we're tight, and I can talk to him about literally anything. When it comes to money, I was looking for at least a $10K bump. IDK what to do.

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I think your job at IPG Health is more stable than moving to VML

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I wouldn’t unless you are out of work

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Why not negotiate a larger increase? Highlight the work you are already doing at an ACD level, the value you bring, etc. Moving for 6K doesn’t seem like enough to jump, especially if you like your team and manager.

Tell them you were looking for a 15k raise. 6k is barely more than 3%. If you were to get promoted, you would likely get a 8-10% raise.

Don’t undervalue yourself.

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I’d stay where you are unless you think you will be on the chopping block or if their other benefits outweigh commuting. Hard to give up fully remote since RTO seems to be the status quo.

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Once the merger hits IPG won’t be remote

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I wouldn’t leave a fully remote position for 6k, 3 after taxes.

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Agree

HOLD. Like others have said, if you don’t feel like your job is at risk then it’s not worth jumping to an unknown (especially if they won’t be paying you what you feel is fair).

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Thanks everyone for your advice. The consensus seems to be to stay put, which is the advice I've gotten off Fishbowl as well.

I'm going to meet with my manager today (not to ask for a counter obviously, cause I'm 99% certain I'm not taking this offer from VML, but to have a broader conversation about my future and potential for growth.

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👏🏾👏🏾 let us know how it goes w your manager!

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1) you'll never have more leverage than you do now so bargain like it. When making a move for money and are getting a title change, target a 20% bump. Or more. This is a 3.7% raise. Inflation is at 3.1%. So basically a cost of living adjustment.

2) You like your job. A lot from the sounds of it. By moving you give those things up and gain a commute and take on a lot of risk--new team, new manager, new client, you don't yet know how to be effective in the new system, you have no idea if the job or company is a good fit, you won't be established and will have a weaker position than others should the company experience a business downturn. Is giving up a job you like and taking on all that risk (and the effort of establishing yourself in a new company) worth 6k?

3) 6k could be ok if you think the experience has a reasonable chance of being transformative--putting your career on a different and better trajectory, giving you a chance to acquire covetable and marketable new skills. Does it?

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I was in the exact same situation as you except the ACD role was a paycut for me. IPG has way better benefits and pay, so I want to say stay put but who knows what’s going to change after the merger. VMLH is pretty stable though so I guess it’s all about how secure you feel at IPG. If you’re feeling like you’ll survive the merger, stay at IPG.

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A client with an eight figure budget? That is fantastic. $6k isn’t enough of a jump. Maybe $40k but I’d want to know what the VML clients are and their budgets, compared to your current clients.

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After tax and then dividing it by 24 pay periods… you won’t notice it.

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Stay where you are. $6k is nothing in the big picture, and the title doesn’t mean that much without the comp to go with it. Having a boss and a team you like is also worth A LOT, and that’s the kind of thing you may not really appreciate until it’s gone.

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Just keep in mind, especially in this market, last one in usually means first one out. For only $6k, that's a non-starter to shake things up if things are generally stable where you currently are.

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Comp aside, you might take a new opportunity if you’re not happy where you are.

Who will your boss be? Will you get more and better creative opportunities out of it? I think that’s an important consideration.

It is hard to come by a team and a healthy brand that you like. Stay put if the bump is $6k, which is nothing after taxes and having to pay again for commute, food, etc.

Sorry, I wouldn’t take a role for 6k just for a title change that comes with over 6k in commuting costs.

I would definitely not make that switch, especially since it seems to be based solely on rumors. The fear that IPGH won't be fully remote after the merger is legit (and I share it!), but right now there's no hard evidence. Stay put.

They want everyone back at the office by spring

Forget the pay. What new experiences would you gain by leaving? If there's no soft skill growth, it's not in your best interest

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