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Mentor
Feel bad for those associates because this messaging likely didn’t come from nowhere. The moral answer is bill what you actually work, yet friends at cheap firms have seen colleagues get punished/underutilized for doing so.
If you are deadset on staying at the firm (I personally wouldn’t), I would informally survey associates to get an honest picture of the real culture and how it aligns to partners and their clients (eg, EC clients are notoriously cost sensitive so partners with this book may push associates to underbill).
Subject Expert
If a partner told me to write a memo in 8 hours I would give him the best memo i could research and write in 8 hours, which if necessary would include a section explaining what i would do if authorized to spend more time on it. They could fire my ass if they wanted to but thats what i would do.
Yeah that’s really dumb. Just bill what it takes you and do good work. When I have an associate “underbill” it makes me think they rushed the work.
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I was having drinks with juniors the other day and it does seem some partners regularly ask folks to bill to BD numbers for billable work. I did my best to dissuade them of this.
Yeah I don’t know why people are attacking associates. I was at a firm where it felt like you got punished for putting down your full time and we all started under billing as a result
A counterpoint (sort of): at some firms, writing off much time at all is strongly discouraged and can cause firm leaders to go ballistic thinking associates are being inefficient and could be taking on more work if they were not. They want above 90% realization, 85% at the absolute outside, and perhaps that is what’s being broadcast (actually or implied).
I’m not at all saying that is a good way to run a firm, but I have worked at some very successful firms that operate that way, and therefore associates underbill as self-preservation. If that’s the case, might be a profitable firm but not a great place to work as an associate.
That shouldn’t ever be associates’ problem
I under bill, yet still have partners changing my billables to nonbilables because they don’t want to appear to be profitable enough.
Those associates are dumb. Don't listen to them
Mentor
You have a clear path to partnership. Don’t leave. Natural selection.
Subject Expert
You play the long game.