Former big law associate here who burned out. Now a corporate inhouse counsel.

Been recovering and considering going back to actual legal practice.

I feel I need a new practice area.

One that impacts people’s lives and is meaningful, but where you don’t have to deal with disturbing facts and personal tragedies.

Any suggestions?

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Ideally outside biglaw, but could be open to try out an interesting niche BL practice area.

What burnt me out in the first place was the meaningless M&A-DD-and-ancillary-document-pushing for clients where I barely knew their company’s name and definitely not any faces. Not going back there.

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at what year of biglaw did you go inhouse?

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“Actual legal practice” haha. What are you doing in house?

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In biglaw or outside of biglaw?

Just curious to know why you are looking to move on from the in-house corporate counsel gig. Also, what has helped you recover from the burn out? Has it been a better WLB in-house? Curious as a fellow burnt out lawyer.

Sense of being more involved, in control, and actually interacting with people rather than making documents.

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