Related Posts
Has anyone used Smart Asset for lead generation?
Chief
Visual Storyteller
Thoughts on sullivan/four32c?
Additional Posts in Salary Negotiations
Anonymous User
Im not searching for a new job but an acquaintance reached out about a similar role at a similar energy company.Turns out 2 ppl threw my name in the hat. I looked into it and the position was posted 2 weeks ago.Their director wants to meet.I bet pay is one of the first things to be discussed so that no one’s time is wasted.Am I crazy for not wanting to entertain it for less than 20-25% base pay increase?Is it selfish to ask for more? I’m sure most salary conversations end in negotiation anyways?
New to Fishbowl?
Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
Mentor
Do not mention that you ste looking elsewhere until you have an offer that you are willing to accept. Coming across job postings that have a higher range is not leverage, as there's no guarantee that you'll get the job, especially in the current market.
The poverty line in San Francisco is roughly $100k, don't let bay area postings skew your perception of value
Cost of living in San Fran is significantly higher than Arizona. You can go and get that higher salary but good luck with housing and other stuff in CA.
I also came in on the low end of my range and it’s been a discussion for a promo this past month for a pay jump as I asked for it last year based on a lot of factors but wasn’t pushed thru. Best option is most likely finding another position as that tends to be the only way to bet that 15-20% pay bump.
I would only bring up the new product if you are unhappy with the raise offer. Your employer may look at your new product that is out performing competitor’s products. Keep that information in “your back pocket as a negotiating point.” I am a Senior Public Accountant, I remember working for a large Accounting firm and when I came up for review, I was not at all impressed by the firm’s first offer and my response was that not only am I completing everything that I was given but also helping other Senior Accountants on my team. After another review of my work, First I was given a nice raise in my salary and moved from my cubicle where most of the staff worked to my own office, near all of the Partners. The firm was growing by leaps and bounds. My manager was also impressed with my abilities in Accounting, But I may have made a big mistake leaving the firm when my Father needed me to help him in his Knitting Factory when his partner for almost 30 plus years retired. I quickly learned about the sweater industry, I met with all of the sales men and designers. About 3 years later when the Union was negotiating very high wages for the employees, I made the decision to close the factory, sell off all of the equipment while “the iron was still hot” in the in the industry in Brooklyn. Imports were killing my business .”
Did you not ask for a raise with the last promotion? Knowing the range, I would have asked right then for the 160K end. You'll pretty much always get higher pay being hired externally and your current company is 100K off from the potential new company. If the interviews go well, I'd move forward and not look back.
I did, got rejected by being told that I’m making as much or more than the 4 people on my team
You don;t say where you are living, but if you're not in CA 135k is in the ballpark for a Senior Embedded Software engineer. The reason they pay 220-250k in the bay is because the cost of living there is insane, (rent can easily be 4k/month for a 2 bed apartment). Also the companies paying that want to own you 24/7 and work you 60+ hours a week. You won't have a life outside of work.