My manager put my name on a daily hotsheet as “Unavailable” 7:30pm - 8:30pm (aka my baby’s bath bed time) i told her I can pick up something before or after that time if it’s urgent. Why do I need to have “unavailable” on a daily hotsheet for times that are after 6pm… this rubs me the wrong way a little bit, I get that she maybe was trying to make sure Everyone knows I’m offline during this time. But ugh..

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FWIW she was probably well intentioned.

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I get why it feels weird, and imagine how concerned you feel is related - at least a bit - to the specific culture of the team/office and how inclusive/respectful the team is.

We have a ton of working parents and non-parents who have hard stops at different times for whatever reason, so wouldn’t think twice about this in our office and would see it as a proactive - just in case something comes up late, I won’t be able to respond between x and y - and no one would judge or wonder what that person has going on.

But if working late almost never comes up for you all, then I think the other way to look at the situation is why was the 7:30-8:30 window even shared at all in the first place? Did your manager ask you directly about your evening availability? That seems inappropriate given we are all (or most of us I assume) paid against a 40hr work week. If you volunteered it, next time (or this time, if you address it with her directly) you can specify you don’t want it wildly communicated, but as your manager wanted her to know. Or, don’t volunteer it at all? An hour is not a long time to wait for an email response, especially in the evening/outside of working hours.

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Yeah off hours is no one's business imo. Is working beyond business hours on a regular basis the expectation? I'd address it, kindly of course, it was probably well-intentioned

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It’s not, which is why I’m so surprised this has to be a thing! If we work late hours I can always do it before or after or worst case ask for coverage for that hour.

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I tell people i’m unavailable between 530 and 7 while my kid is home from daycare all the time and to be honest it does feel weird but because the work culture of our industry is so f*cked. So I do it to normalize it and of course course we shouldn’t have to work as late as we often do, but I like to blatantly let people know clearly that my family comes first, maybe in hopes that down the road things might be different 🤞

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I let people know I am unavailable after 5:00pm every day and absolutely do not contact me on weekends. I have it blocked off in my calendar-so no you can’t schedule meetings again at 5pm lol. Then again I have many years in and have learned over these years that this was something I needed to convey (to my many bosses) and I have had many bosses because of the ad agency I was at, not because I was hopping from place to place. The last boss changeover at this “big” agency couldn’t handle my regular business hours so I decided it was time for me to leave. And it was the biggest favor they did for me-if they only knew. Now expectations are set, no stress and my pay jumped significantly, thanks to my old mentally unstable boss for giving me the extra push to decide to leave the big agency. It paid off for me in so many ways. I understand if you need to work once in a while to finish a hot job at the last minute or whatever and it should be your choice and not to the point they need to put it on a hot list. Don’t bow down to pressure. We do ads, not brain surgery.

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Does she track other people’s standing commitments (e.g. exercise classes, appointments, etc.?). And why is she tracking your avails after work? I manage a large media team with a high needs client and I can’t fathom this. Sounds like she should focus more on managing the client so there are less post 6pm fire drills and less time logging your after hours whereabouts.

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Unless you have a client in a different time zone/country that schedules meetings after US business hours, this seems unnecessary. And to your point, singles you out.

If you know any other parents who are experiencing this type of thing, make a note. Document it. It's called a "pattern of conduct" and if you're looking to build a case, this is information to collect.

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I would absolutely bring this to HR.

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JUST the bathtime. That thought alone kills me

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😭… technically yes but I wfh and have my mom/nanny help take care of him so I TAKE MY TIME BACK. When I’m waiting for routes or have a minute, I’ll go down and play or hug him. I don’t feel bad about it because of stuff like that.

The fact it’s at such a late hour is the concerning part…we are trying to reduce hours on our team to avoid burnout. but, if your account requires unorthodox hours i actually read it and thought how considerate it was of them to put in that you shouldn’t be bothered during that time. I bet you they didn’t realize it offended you. Before going to HR address with them first.

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I would ask her to update it to say anything after 6pm and add anything before you start in the morning. double down on respecting your personal time.

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