Well known brand wants to hire a contractor n so 10+ external recruiters post the job. I apply to the role 10 times. Every single external recruiter says they r going to submit me. Then I hear nothing from every single one. Cool. What is point n purpose of this ? Does anyone kno or been in similar situation?

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While there are some good recruiters out there, the majority seem to chancers. They see a post, reach out to you and give a confidence boosting intro conversation telling you they have this amazing opportunity that they want to get you in front of the company for.

The problem is, they don’t “have the opportunity - they haven’t been retained, so they’re actually in no better position that if you applied directly.

They’ll send an email to the hiring manager or HR person presenting an anonymous candidate for the role that only they can are talking to and hope to get an agreement signed paying them to introduce you.

And the only way they know the hiring manager is because they’ve called the hiring manager to discuss opportunities that they have “coming up soon” with amazing clients and want to discuss the hiring managers own career plans, interest in another role (all the while pumping them up to feel great about themselves). And right at the end, they drop in “I wouldn’t be doing my job if I didn’t ask - do you have any roles opening up soon that I could help you out with? I have some amazing candidates in your space”.

My absolute favorite example was a recruiter who called me about three different roles presenting themselves as the key person to get you in front of the company (I think they avoided ever saying “I’ve been retained”), did get me 1 interview, ghosted me completely on all 3 roles. Then called me about a 4th - which I happened to have already applied for and was waiting on an offer. So I called the company to ask if the offer was real as I knew they were still recruiting new candidates - the hiring company had no idea what I was talking about. Where I absolutely blew up was when the recruiter called me a couple of weeks after I took the job to ask if they could help me recruit for two openings I had…

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Usually if a recruiter submitted you for an opening, the others can’t do it as you are seen as Recruiter 1’s candidate. At least in the UK. Unless you don’t disclose that you already applied to the role via a different recruiter, but then you risk p’ing them off if they find out regardless

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If someone wrote a well reported book on the recruiting business it could be a fascinating read. From the outside it's just puzzling. They seem to just hit up everyone they can, and you have to wonder what the motivation is. Someone told me they typically have quotas to meet, so they just make contact with anyone and everyone and then disappear. What a strange way to make a buck.

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