What are folks thoughts on getting hand/neck/head tattoos and keeping my job? If I’m a partner (most likely NEP at that point, my firm has a 2 year NEP period before making shares) then although I would have the bit of job security that comes from being a partner could the other partners kick me out or deny me shares assuming I continue to bring in biz at the level expected of me? Before the questions yes I am heavily tattooed otherwise and my hands/neck/head/face are the only remaining spots.

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I’m not a tattoo person so maybe I don’t get it, but this seems like a pretty unimportant thing to risk your job (and potentially millions of dollars as equity) over. Whenever people have asked me about tattoos and BigLaw what I’ll advise is to do any tattoos they want EXCEPT these areas. Even among very liberalized/young people who don’t care about them in general, I think these areas are still taboo (especially head/face).

You could maybe get away with neck or hands (if we’re talking very modest scale and not anything close to full coverage) but head/face is wild. If I met a lawyer with a face tattoo I’d be extremely taken aback and honestly would have trouble taking them seriously. I would expect to hear “yeah I was in prison myself, got out and got a law degree, now I work to help keep others out of jail as a defense lawyer” or something and if you said you’re just some dude who does capital markets I’d be like 🤨

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As a male I wore a long ponytail (halfway down my back) at V20s for most of my career. It was limiting with some clients and would have prevented me from joining some firms laterally, but I was extremely successful and as a result it was overlooked. I’m sure there’s some boomer in this opinion but I think visible tattoos, especially above the collar, would be much more limiting than an unconventional haircut. Making and succeeding as partner — especially equity — is really hard under optimal circumstances. Why make it much more difficult for yourself? But if ink is your priority and you’re willing to live with consequences that you can’t objectively measure, then you do you.

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This was my immediate thought. Making equity partner is already a tournament. Why in the world would you deliberately limit your odds even further by doing something objectively and visibly taboo with your body…

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How many swastikas are we talking here?

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Wow are you proud of your anonymous little jew hating comment

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I’m a partner at a very liberal west coast firm where people often wear t-shirts to work and have visible arm tattoos. Even here I wouldn’t recommend neck/head/hands. Have to imagine Dallas is more conservative.

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I question your judgment just by asking this. As a client I would do the same. And I have a lot of tattoos.

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No. If I’m wearing a polo. Definitely.

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I mean, look around at your firm and other peer firms in your market…do see others with hand/neck/head tattoos?

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No but I figured that most folks don’t already have a bodysuit and little to no space remaining otherwise.

How about a tattoo of a gun shooting yourself in the foot?

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Update: seems like the consensus is that it’s a no go. I guess I’ll just continue to get gap fillers in between my existing tattoos and will plan on tattooing my armpits since my wife pointed out that I don’t have any coverage there yet.

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@AE1 - this is one of my hobbies, of which I have a few. Not super interested in adding to that list of hobbies or changing any out but I appreciate your thoughts overall.

This just sounds like a ready-made excuse to cry victim when you get the tattoos and your firm rejects your efforts to become a full partner. It also reaffirms the notion I've always had that tattoos are more of a mental illness than an hobby. Wanting to hurt your future for satisfaction now is one definition of a mental illness.

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If you're asking, I think you already know the answer. I would definitely not do it. There are still a lot of anti tat people out there and why would you risk your livelihood over this?

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I'd recommend seeing a shrink.

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Which market? Texas? I wouldn’t.

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I live in Dallas. LOL, do not get a face tattoo. you should know the market better than that at this point lol

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How old are you? Partnership is not job security, and visible hand/neck/head tattoos come with professional consequences. The question you should be asking is how much leverage you have. Even as a partner, the other partners can technically push you out if they believe you are creating risk for the firm.
If I owned a business and someone applied with hand, neck, or head tattoos, I would interview them like anyone else, but I would choose another candidate. They would not need to know the reason; I would simply tell them I went with someone who was a better fit for the role.

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This should not matter, the law is based on facts of the contract or the case, not what the lawyer looks like.

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Ink in those areas is IMHO performative. I have 30 pieces myself, but would never consider those areas.

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Anything that can be easily covered is usually fine. Id get a wrist tattoo because I can cover with a watch.

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Appreciate you sharing. You wouldn’t believe some of the stuff I saw in prison. One bald guy had an intricate brain design over his entire scalp and “F*** Your God” inked just above his front hairline, written in perfect cursive. When his hair was an inch long it was invisible. When his head was shaved it was something else.

As I said earlier I think any visible ink above the collar would be a significant impediment to making and succeeding as a partner in virtually any big law firm. And the issue isn’t primarily the firm. It’s clients. Many and probably most companies that hire big law firms would not hire someone with that kind of ink, especially for work that involves representing the client in public. I can’t articulate exactly why the reaction to head/face ink is so strong, but it’s definitely an entirely different thing than even a full sleeve.

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If you’re already heavily tattooed it doesn’t seem like there’s anything to gain here. And I’m not risk averse about this stuff / think the fuss about tattoos piercings etc. is regarded and do what I want in that regard. It just seems like this is where it’s bordering on silly / unnecessary so why risk it

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Do you really need to tattoo your face and hands too?
BTW.... It will be a turn off too many potential clients and co-workers. Why risk your income? Its not worth it.

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Why would you do this? Just no, leave the neck and hands alone,

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I doubt clients would want this as well. Sucks but perception is everything especially for clients.

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