What are some promising exit opps for Senior Consultants in S&O Health Care Providers? Do you where these folks typically end up after their stint at Big D.

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Those are some high hope positions... Exited from PwC senior associate to a manager level position at a hospital. Come to find out working in the provider space is the worst. Now in private equity as a VP, much better than the hospital but still not as good as consulting.

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Plan on a manager/director level... Forget the C-Suite until you have actual provider experience.

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Hospital system controller, CFO, CIO, apps director, COO, CRO, etc.

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Chief Strategy Officer, Director of Business Development, VP of Managed Care

If you were to leave two years post MBA...what pay and level would you generally come in at? I want to stay west coast and don't like tech, so I'm highly considering focusing on life science and healthcare.

Why is working in provider space "the worst"?

Thanks VP1, your post makes the most sense.

The provider side is filled with egos and for poor reason. Many of the major systems are not-for-profit and are run like government entities... Very vertical structure. I.e St Joseph Hoag Health (which is currently merging with Providence) has 3 levels of VP. AVP, EVP, SVP... And they aren't exactly a "major" health system. In actuality if you look at just their income statement, you'll see their operating margin is super thin but they won't change their org structure (exclude Hoag Health System, which is floating them)... I worked for Hoag Health System post PwC... First, it was a shock to my mindset and pace of getting things done. You have to move much much slower. It was tough to get anything done. My role was Manager of Strategy and Business Development, and the minute our strategy went off campus (which was almost everything I worked on) and regional leadership got involved, forget about it, the project will never be completed. So I left for a PE firm that manages hospitals. Totally different mindset and pace... More in line with consulting. Work for tenet... They're for-profit... They move quickly.

I got $150k plus a measly bonus of 3%. DO NOT EXPECT TO MAKE MONEY ON THE PROVIDER SIDE IN A NOT-FOR-PROFIT unless you are in the c or svp-suite. Raises are 3% a year on a good year. You make money when you get promoted and that's only when the person above you leaves, which may never happen.

Aren't there for-profit options (e.g. Work for health insurance companies) after doing provider stuff at Deloitte ? Also what level is senior associate at PWC? First level after MBA?

Yes... There are lots of options managed care organizations, health plans, managed services organizations, aco's, there's no limit on options... But you have choose what interests you, not which will make you the most money. No sense in going to industry and hating life, just for money.

I want to buy a house in Santa Monica... What would you recommend for maximizing salary? I did banking before bschool so I can put up with a lot.

Go back to banking or go into tech.

Within the healthcare space what would you recommend

For straight money? Go to healthcare tech startup... Tons of them in LA and lots of money flowing in. Some will make it, many will not. 2nd choice, go to a payer like UHS or services company like Optum... And grind out till you make it to the top.

Thanks!

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