What's a mid level salary like at hot shops like GUT, Droga, or WK? Do they pay the same as a mid level writer role in your Ogilvy, Dentsu, Saatchis?

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I was underpaid by $30-40K when I worked at GUT as a senior. They say it’s Miami COL adjustment but they’ll work you at a level above your title. Junior salary is $40K, meaning mid would be $60K with zero room for negotiation because hundreds of creatives will happily work there for that.

The benefits are poor even for ad agencies. They cover 50% of your healthcare plan, which is woeful especially when combined with a below average salary. Not to mention they don’t 401k match. I saw on another post that Arts & Letters pays for 100% of their employees’ healthcare; now that’s a small hot indie agency doing right by its people.

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I believe the community pays OK for Miami. They wanted to pay me ~80K for a designer role. From what I saw on Glassdoor I think their ACDs make closer to 200K. It is a bit of a sweatshop though and from what I observed, it takes a while to get promoted.

And yeah, Miami prices are crazy. I’m near Ft Laud, my SO is in North Miami and pays $400 more than me for an apt in a rougher part of town.

They pay lower because they know there will be others lining up for the same role willing to take it.

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Yes, but at those better places, they tell you the secrets about aliens.

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Most shops do pay similar salaries. But the “better” ones do try and work you down to a bit less, in my experience.

The mid level position as a whole gets screwed more. You don’t/quite/ know you’re worth yet, some hotter agencies take advantage and will try the “you’re going to make so much work” and “it’s a privilege to be here” cards.

At the end of the day, the types of places you’re naming have more leverage because they have more talent knocking on their door.

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That hasn’t been my experience at all.

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Mid 90k

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Mid-level creatives are paid generously at Droga, significantly more than I was offered at other shops.

I was paid very well as a mid at droga

i was definitely paid lowish as a mid level, like 70k.

Lowest I made as a senior in NYC was 90 but then eventually 110. 90 at a smaller place, 110 at a bigger place.

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