Would you apply to a job that is a good fit but for a 5 day a week in office requirement ( requirement is in the job posting)? Commute to office would be 1.5-1.75 hours each way. I'd be willing to do it 2-3 days a week but no way can I sustain 5. Apply and bring up in screener if I get one? Or is that a waste of time?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

lol absolutely not. Just casually ask the screener if the in-office requirement is a hard requirement. If they say yes, just thank them and say you’re no longer interested.

like

Yeah - for that commute time 5 days RTO would be a no-go unless pay is amazing

like

Never. Even if they modify their policy for you initially, they can change to enforce 5 days a week policy at anytime. Do not underestimate the toll that kind of commute will have on your life.

like

I turned down 90k more for a job that was 2 day a week in office with that long of a commute (drive to train, train to city, subway downtown, walk). Already make over 450k TC for almost entirely remote job. Tough decision but I valued my free time more

like

SC2 how many years out of law school are you?

like

I’d bring it up after getting an offer?

like

That's a Huge trade off - minimum 4 extra hours per day between travel time, prep, etc, plus associated costs. I would definitely need more than Fit to consider that

like

No.

like

I’m in 3 days a week right now and moving on. Don’t do 5.

like

Never

like

Nope. No way.

That commute is nuts. I am in office 5 days a week, but it’s 20-25 minutes by car, 45 minutes on a bike.

Would be a hard no for me. I’m moving on to a job that is 5 days in office, but it’s a 30 min walk or 15 min bus ride in midtown. I’m also coming from big law where it’s a trade off on lifestyle that I’m willing to make.

That commute would be way too much for me. It’s a huge amount of time to lose from your day when we already work long hours. Watched someone I love (also an atty) do this and get ground down to nothing. Think it took years off their life. Time is one of the most precious commodities in my life.

For me, it would be a hard pass UNLESS I was planning to relocate within weeks to be much, much closer to the office. (Would this be an option for you?)

But again, this is me. Maybe you’ve been looking for a long time, love everything else about the job, want to maximize the time available to listen to CLEs…? Agree w/others; might be very hard decision.
Wish you the very, very best and know you’ll make the decision that works best for you. Good luck!

I commute 5 days a week at 30-50mins each way and absolutely despise it. I love my job and the people I work with, and they can be flexible with times/if I need to stay home for an appt, but honestly if it was any longer, I’d quit.

That’s an extra 3-4hours of your day. You’d have to leave home at 7ish and not get home until 7pm. When do you get anything done/relax? It’s a no from me.

I would consider it if 1 day a week. Not more.

I’d apply with a 5 day in-office policy if I was interested enough in the job, but I would *not* apply to any job that would require more than a 30 minute one-way commute.

I had a 2 hour each way commute for about 6 months after college and felt like it took at least 5 years off my life. Did nothing but work and drive. Never never again. Remote or living (or moving to) within a 30 minute commute radius are my only acceptable options.

Depends on how good the comp/title is. Maybe 2 days a week but I would also consider getting a hotel near the office for one of the nights in between

Related Posts

Are there any agencies that are willing to pay for relocation? Looking to make a move out to WC. I know this is more likely for VP+ so I’m curious which agencies have the flattest PnL

What's your favorite math level you enjoy teaching?

I"ll start. truly enjoy geometry. Wish I can choose to teach it.

like

*** CFP Prep Materials ***
Is anyone interested in purchasing CFP prep materials? I have Dalton study materials including their course books, their review study books as well as their flash cards.

like

Hi all,
I am working as windows and vmware administrator and have 2 years of experience.
I have completed azure fundamentals certificate.
Looking for guidance on what i should learn to get a better job opportunity.

like

Hi Fishes, I have recently joined Ericsson. What are yearly hikes and benefits I can expect? Please share your valuable feedback. Thanks in advance.@Ericsson

likesmart

I love going to karaokes but none of my LA friends are into singing in semi-public settings. Want to start a bi-monthly bar hopping then karaoke lounge thing lol. Who’s interested?

like

Best resources for business writing? Thanks!

like

I live in studio, high-rise building. This is my second highest electricity bill. I work from home (computer usually on all day, occasional TV & microwave use, living room & bathroom lights when needed).

If you live in an apartment/studio mainly - does your bill breakdown the same way with a base price, usage price & tax?

Post Photo
like
like

Guys Please help me I looking for any entry level job or internship in PWC
I'm a MBA Finance graduate

Can I get any referral or help from anybody

Thank you

likefunny

Got a hefty joining bonus and the taxes trimmed it almost into half. What did I do wrong? Will I get some of it back when I file next year? Also, anything I should do going forward? I don’t have a tax adviser and have been doing it myself so far

like

Has anyone taken up the Personal Capital investment management service that they offer?

They say they will manage my 401k but to do that they will require my credentials that I use to log into fidelity. Is that normal? Has anyone here done that before? Any feedback or experiences of using them?

like

Anyone interested in giving me a first job doing remote data entry work? I'm 17 highly proficient in a windows environment a quick learner to new tech and tech concepts and can work 20 h a week with school looking for $16/h+

likesmart

Men of FB, how did you girlfriends / wives sex drive change with age?

like

Hi Fishes,
I'm planning to switch and looking out for SDE based positions. I tried reaching out to Recuriters on LinkedIn, but that didn't work. So I was wondering if it's possible to get a referral here for such positions. Please let me know if you can help out. Thank you.

uplifting

Entering my 2nd year as a medical malpractice (insurance) defense litigator. My billables are 2200 per year, even during WFH and COVID while the courts are moving very slowly. Any advice as to what I should look into for an exit? I can’t hit those billables while maintaining my sanity.

like

Small law firm in Westchester, NY looking to bring on 2 associates (1 litigation 1 transactional). having difficulty finding the right candidates and interested in engaging a recruiter. Just looking for some direction or recommendations. Appreciate any guidance- thank you,

like

Hey guys! What is the standard CTC for a non-qualified in Big 4 currently with 5 years of experience?

like

Moving to London in September - looking for a place to live! Any recommendations on neighborhoods?

like

Additional Posts in In-House Counsel

Anyone here go in-house to Amazon from big law? If so, what kind of a pay cut can I expect to take? Currently 5th year on Cravath scale.

like

Midlevel corporate attorney considering an in-house offer in the wealth management space (RIA, multi family office). Work would be a mix of corporate and funds work. Interested in getting into the blockchain space long term. Would this role move me toward or away from that goal?

like

Have any one used a resume coach or service for in house job search, particularly for IP and product counsel positions? If so, how did you find a good one? Thanks!

like

Has anyone moved from antitrust private practice to a non-antitrust in-house role? If so, what kind of role?

like

Should litigation come out of legal or the businesses budget? My understanding is business? Any thoughts here or advice…

like

I’m in-house at a small company (60 people), started right out of law school about 5 years ago. We had a legal team of 5 then. Everyone has left and we just hired a new GC. I went from $70k to $100k a little over a year ago. I am expecting an offer from a firm doing business law work but think this might be an opportunity to go to my current employer and ask for a significant raise, with new offer in hand. Any thoughts or advice going into this?

like

A client (in the banking industry) is looking for what they’re calling a software/dev ops attorney to report directly to the GC. Thinking 6th year+. Would need to be based in the south. Can provide more details if you dm me.

like

Is it difficult landing an in-house position as only a second year corporate associate in big law? I know some people who went in-house straight out of law school and some who had no transactional background but went in-house after just a year of practice. Not having that same luck on my end.

like

I have one pro bono case that I kept when I left my firm to go in house. It’s a matter completely unrelated to my company and I have malpractice insurance through the nonprofit organization associated with the case. I’ve made clear to my client that I’m repping this client in my personal capacity. No one has asked me specifically about pro bono stuff at my company - if I know there’s no conflict of interest, is this something I should disclose? To whom should I disclose this?

like

NFW- I just had a good laugh. Earlier today I was on a video conference call reviewing a Private Label Agreement template with a larger company who wishes to brand label products we develop and manufacture. We came to a very one-sided provision and my sales VP stated “for this one, how can we just say ‘hell no’ ...nicely?” The other person on the call said we can replace the wording with just NFW (no f@$* way) and I said “I will have to add that to the defined terms section so it’s clear”

likefunny

I’m entering salary negotiations at a Fortune 500 company and am looking for trustworthy resources for salary data that I can share with the company if they ask where I got my numbers. I know Glassdoor, but what else?

like

Has anyone heard of TechGC/DeputyGC? Thoughts on membership?

like

Any Amazon counsel or other FAANG attorneys willing to share how their comp review has worked? I’m really happy with my offer(lower base, really high signing bonus and decent RSUs) and was told their would be yearly comp reviews but wondering how that plays out the first few years...

like

Did anyone have an interview with Amazon for an ACC position? And know how long after the phone screen/hypo stage they contact you? It’s been two days, I’m thinking they are going to reject me if they are taking this long?

like

How long did it take you to find the right position the first time you went in-house? I am 5 months into it and regretting turning down the (lowball) offer I got a couple months ago.

like

My background is in tech transactional. I joined a cybersecurity SaaS startup at the end of last year and now also handle more generalist matters in addition to all things commercial-related. I have a number of books on contracts that I’ve found super helpful over the years (The Tech Contracts Handbook, A Manual of Style for Contract Drafting, Sign Here, etc.). Can anyone recommend books they’ve found helpful for L&E matters, privacy matters, product matters, or marketing/advertising matters?

like

In house interview- I am going to hopefully the final round of interview to meet the whole legal team. I was asked about my availability, and it will take 5 hours if in one day. Should I split to multiple days? Will it cause any issues? Anyone on both sides can speak from their experience? Thanks!

like

If you practice collections in-house, what do you earn and do you receive a bonus?

I have practiced for five years and make $121k as an employee of a financial services company. As the only attorney, I oversee all statewide collections efforts, from demand letter to garnishment, with a case volume of nearly 7k new cases per year, of which the majority I end up litigating. I receive only a $1k bonus per year. Is my compensation fair? My last insurance defense gig was $75k.

like

How does your company manage (track) all of the documents related to a merger you are working on? Are you using a matter management software, a spreadsheet, shared file, etc? Keeping up with the moving pieces is killing me with just a spreadsheet.

like

Now that Facebook is Meta, I thought I’d just pitch MANGA as the new FAANG…

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal