Would you take a sector leader role at a WITCH or is it still career suicide? What exits do you think could come from it?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

What’s a WITCH?

like

I have the same question.

like

Totally agree. Zero upside as a stepping stone unless you are looking to travel downmarket.

like

Absolute career suicide. Your chances of ever getting a meaningful role at a Tier 1 company in the future will be very slim. Exits would be other WITCH, small, local market consultancies or Protiviti / Slalom types.

like

Why is this as at the big 4 it’s a great role

smart

Because the Big4 are perceived as more polished, and less commoditized type work (whether there’s any true merit to that is a separate convo).

WITCH are perceived as staff aug body shops, largely because that’s true.

It’s also my opinion that the WITCH firms will be more quickly impacted by AI than the B4. B4 has more service lines that require critical thinking that AI can’t really crack yet, while the WITCH firms are heavy on people doing repeatable tasks (exactly the thing that is being displaced by automation and AI).

like

Wipro, Infosys, TCS, Cognizant, and HCL

helpful

I’d throw Capgemini in there as well.

It depends. How much are they willing to pay you?

funny

Everyone I know that went to a WITCH hated it and quit within a year.

like

Back to the Big 4/IBM/Accenture. No it didn't pay off. No matter how much the WITCH tell you they're moving up the value chain, building practices and industry expertise, creating assets, etc, at the end of the day you're just selling bodies in India and competing on price.

like

Had to Google that acronym 😏

Me too.

Which WITCH?

Great sandwiches

What about exits to big tech, industry, back to B4, etc? It’s sounding like no, but curious if outside consulting it would be perceived any better. In B4 everyone wants a big sector leader role, so I thought this could be a good stepping stone, but maybe it’s just suicide.

Related Posts

Anyone from KPMG India would like to tell me the hierarchy in IT advisory. How many levels are there in analyst position ?

like

Is there such thing as a true account role at major branding agencies? Ex. Interbrand, Landor, Pentagram...Sounds like in many cases it’s actually just PM under a different name.

like

Just curious to how my firms (wealth management/bank/trust) comp compares with others out there. I received a promotion earlier this year from an Investment Advisor, AVP to Senior Investment Advisor, VP and moved from $110K to $140K ($130 salary + $10K discretionary bonus) all in. By meeting expectations in 2 pay cycles, the base bumps up to $175K + bonus. Grown in this role over about 10 years with the same firm, MBA + CFA; top 10 city and living comfortably as dual income household.

like

I have ~4 years of experience as a commercial account manager working for a large bank in my home country before migrating to Canada. I am currently working as a credit analyst (commercial clients, upto $30mn in lending size) in a mid size Bank in Toronto.
I want to eventually work as a commercial/corporate account manager and hopefully grow in that role.
I am looking at my options and can't see anything beyond the Big5 banks.... Contd in comments

Anyone have insights on the following Deloitte role: Digital Banking Consultant - Captive? Just got an interview for it. Any insight would be great.

Salary
Team Structure
Day to day
Etc

Deloitte

like

New to this space, wanted to know more about this profile 'product marketing manager' and how different is it from product manager role.

like
like

Conill (Hispanic Market arm of Saatchi) is hiring just FYI. I don’t work there so look up Not in Linked In.

Post Photo
like

What compensation should I be targeting for a Vice President role at a PE firm with $6.5B AUM in terms of salary, bonus, and carry? How might this differ for an operating partner at a PE fund? TIA!

like

If anyone needs referral for Novo Nordisk hit me up

like

Hi!

I currently have a role in Tempe, AZ for a Sr. Manager of Payroll that is hybrid. The big things we are looking for is 10+ years of Payroll experience for a public company, strong ADP experience and people management experience would be nice to have.

If you are interested in Tempe or live in Tempe, AZ feel free to send me a message!

like

Regalix is hiring HR Consultant.. write to the email id mentioned below

Post Photo
like

I applied for a role a few days ago and found the relevant hiring manager today via LinkedIn. Should I send a follow up mail/introduce myself to this person. Would it leave a good impression or come across as desperate?

Btw, the person is in a “Talent Acquisition” position at the company.

like

Hoping this gets more traction here. Received two offers: 1. Manager role at another big 4 @ 160k. 2nd offer is Senior project manager role in industry @ 190k. Bonus % is about the same. Not sure cont

I'm interested in applying for a Senior Program Manager role at Splunk. Does anyone have insights into that specific role there? Culture, balance, career path? Thanks!

likesmart

Hello Everyone, I'm new to fishbowl and hoping that I'm able to reach my goal of placing myself in a #job and helping others too in finding a job here in #Dubai. Does anyone have any leads or referrals for an Executive Administrative Assistant / Secretary / Junior EA role? I have a total of 22 years of experience in the administrative field & Executive Assistant certified by Davars. Currently on a visit visa in Dubai.
Thank you for the leads and referrals. Stay safe, Stay Blessed.

like

Openings in Capgemini for Women professionals.

DM me for referral




HCL Technologies
Tata Consultancy
Accenture

Post Photo
like

Alvarez & Marsal Anyone have some insight on the “Data and Analytics” role for A&M disputes and investigations team? Alvarez & Marsal

like

Hi folks .. I recently got selected in Amazon for L4 position in Bangalore for the role HR Specialist U.S .. my recruiter said my CTC would be 7.7 lpa and my current CTC is 4.75 lpa .. please advise how much I can negotiate here. I am looking for more than 10lpa per annum minimum.. Amazon

More Posts

Hi! I have worked in management roles in tech, mainly in analytics, for approximately 10 years. My TC has fluctuated (currently around 135K CAD), but it seems like it's relatively easy to breach the 100K bar, but hard to breach the 150K bar. I now work at the CBC, but I have worked in the private sector too. What is the most realistic way to move to 200K? 1) Continue moving the ladder to a VP position, 2) Switch to Pre-Sale, 3) Switch to Consulting, 4) Work from a U.S. company from Canada.

like

Anybody know if there’s a Toronto Lawyers bowl?

like

Interviewing for a CCOR VP role in Tampa, FL. Was hoping someone would be familiar with the salary ranges. Thanks!

like

I was just offered an amazing logistics job in England. At first, I thought Brexit would pose a unique challenge but the more I learn, the more I realize how bad the situation really is. Do you see things improving any time soon?

like

I'm in a bit of a conundrum. Been a teamster for years, just found out I'm close to becoming diabetic. What can I do to keep at least sort of in shape when I travel too much to justify a gym membership?

like

I am looking to connect with any HR of Natwest. Can anyone help?

I received offer a month ago n PES started at the same time
How long does it take for PES to complete..
Where can I check the status.....or how long be notifies
What is the process post PES.....
Please someone clarify who has joined recently

like

MY WLB sucks

likehelpful

Is anyone else experiencing hurricane Dorian or did experience her ? It’s my first hurricane outside the Caribbean.

like

Hi Fishes.. 6 yoe in SAP SD, i got 2 offers one from Wipro14 lpa role tech lead and other from Infosys for 16lpa role consultant.. i feel in Wipro the role is good but package is very less and in Infosys the role less for my experience and package can also be revised.. what can i do.. need your valuable inputs if i can negotiate with anyone of the company or which i can choose.. TIA.

like

Hi,
I have 2 years and 7 months of experience as a DevOps Engineer. Currently working as Senior Software Engineer in a MNC.
I have worked on the tools such as Kubernetes, Docker, Jenkins, Git (GitLab and GitHub)/Gerrit and Other DevOps Tool Chains such as Artifactory and Monitoring Tools. But not cloud experience like AWS, Azure (have on Premises cloud exposure).
I'm looking for job change. Any leads will be appreciated.

like

Hi Sharks,

Kindly reply.

Post Photo
like

Anybody know the Senior Director salary band at EY in Toronto? Hoping to understand if it’s worth a conversation or not.

like

I’m looking to pivot from law to Human Resources. I have a JD but never was in a firm that did much employment law. Since I don’t have much hands on HR experience, I’d really appreciate any advice or specific jobs to look out for. Thanks!

like

Hi Fishes,

I have previously worked for Reliance Jio, couldn't withdraw my PF money. How can I get that now ?

likefunny

Senior Analyst in a coverage role- tips to stay engaged during this slump? With deal flow essentially halted, where do you see juniors adding the most value and standing out during all of this?

like
like

What is the maximum fixed pay Infosys offers for Senior Consultant profile into niche tech? My current CTC is 20 LPA with 2 lakhs variable included.

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal