After listening to the Mike Saylor podcast with Lex Friedman, it made me reconsider my notions I had about BTC layer 2. IMO ETH has thoroughly eaten BTC’s lunch from a development/dapp perspective. I’m 50/50 allocated in both because as Mike says BTC is durable digital property while I see ETH as the platform for application functionality. Would be interested to hear other’s takes. At the core of it, I’m not sure myself and others will ever want to spend BTC, even if fees were negligible.

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

They can both co-exist. You’re comparing apples to oranges. There’s a reason why ETH is transitioning to POS. BTC is a scarce digital assets with an encoded monetary system that can allow the world to operate debt free T+0 (the perfect gold standard). Personally I would buy BTC and borrow against it.. the demand for the most scarce asset in the world will only go up. I believe it’ll become the best form of collateral

like

Was that you who offered the bitcoin collateralized loan from Goldman this past week?

I don’t see any valuable low risk Defi project. They are managed by individuals and not centralized (one point of failure, founder(s) can jump the ship with everything because they participated on initial distribution and have power over the systems). All Defi projects are pure marketing and don’t use fully potential of decentralization.
Loans, deposits, coins, NFTs none of these.
They can be implemented on any centralized database

Am I wrong ?

funny

Then I tend to agree with you. DeFi seems like a more efficient centralized finance to me, which is great. But a network has to compete with all the other blockchain networks as well as the legacy finance system that is much better funded. Waiting for that 'ah-ha' moment because it sure seems like I'm wrong based on valuations and buzz in the altcoins space, but I'm not there yet. Proof of work seems transformative to me. Proof of stake seems like software that can be programmed within the walls of a bank which already understands international regulations much better.

like

Be careful listening to any of these clowns. They don’t know anything besides how to jump on a trend where everyone can see the direction it’s going.

BTC and ETH both seem like reasonable investments. A little less speculative than other layer 1s and 2s. Maybe there’s a future for Avax and solana and Luna and Matic and others, maybe not. But those two main ones should be fine, if crypto thrives. Don’t overthink it or pollute with whatever nonsense those fools cook up to hype their bags.

like

Listen to Craig Wright and you will have no damn clue what to think. He challenges every aspect of current BTC while alleging he is the creator of bitcoin

Craig Wright is a scammer. He's made a fortune from convincing people of things that aren't true. He's very good at it and you likely aren't immune so I'd be careful listening to him.

uplifting

Whoever gets the best developers and attracts the most users will win in the end. It's all a game of who will win the user adoption. Currently, whether we measure users in number of people or initial capital investment from centralized institutions is the question to me. I measure in number of people, and bitcoin clearly has a first-to-market advantage.

I personally think proof of work has more value in the longterm than proof of stake too. Reasoning there is more philosophical to me.

Integration between networks is likely to be lucrative too. There can be more than 1 network. Sovereign nations are likely to have differing opinions on what they're going to allow. And those nations will prosper or decay by its decision.

So as a developer if I want to succeed in life and be involved in crypto world, I shouldn’t build Defi apps on eth-like platforms, but earn money the way I love and invest in bitcoin

Related Posts

What do we think is going to happen with student loan deferral? Any recent new grads thinking they’re going to pay back any time soon? Some argue Biden is going to keep pushing interest pause til next election then forgive 10k as a strategy to help get re-elected? I only have 15k to pay and can pay it anytime, but no incentive to when that money can be earning more elsewhere in the meantime, thoughts on what is really going to happen?

like

I'm working on a Fintech startup related to commercial banking pricing. We would like to do some "expert interviews" with current RMs (we would compensate your time.) We want to better understand the friction points when it comes to price C&I or CRE loans. Please DM me if you are interested.

We are not looking for any private information, but more anecdotal evidence of issues that can be improved.

like

How do i start investing in stocks? Any tips/sites or apps?

For those taking out student loans and have researched a few vendors... recommendations on who you are going with and why? Thanks!

like

24 yr old, 110k TC, maxing out Roth IRA and Roth 401k, no debt or large expenses. Also have ~35k sitting in a bank account. What should I do with that money?? Am I better just sitting on it for a while then watching it shrivel up in my brokerage account?

like

What are your thoughts on buying a house now and refinancing later? (Hopefully when interest rates are lower)

like

Anyone with a leased car move from NJ to other states? If yes, could you please help me understand the process to get sales tax refund from NJ? Thanks in advance!

like

Are the glory days of bitcoin over?

Kpi reply krta b h is group me
Techm need NPS account from kotak only
How to open a new one.

I just received an offer to lateral into banking. How does independence affect the stocks I currently own? If I join and my stocks are on a restricted list will I have to sell them? Or will I be limited to being unable to buy more/sell any during the course of my employment.

likeuplifting

How big is to big for an initial investment property. Theres a 20 SFH portfolio for sale by me for about a mil. Is this to big to start with initially? I'm less worried about the Financials (feel comfortable on that end) and more worried about the managerial aspect.

like

About to get a home improvement loan. Any recommendations for a lender? Also looking for general advice. TIA!

like

I’ve always been a big saver minimum 15% to maxing out my 401k since I graduated college. I’m married to someone who thinks 6% is enough and likes $$$ cars. Other than the cars, they dont really spend money. For the married 🐠, how do you have the conversation with them that what they are doing isn’t enough? I try to guide them and say you want the $$$ cars but the salary you have won’t get there and you’re going to have to find a job that gets them the salary…. Then the fight starts.

like

Diversification is the key. My portfolio includes a bit of most of these.

1. Debt/Liquid mutual funds (direct)
2. Gold
3. REIT (fractional ownership and distribution)
4. Equity mutual funds (ELSS, direct)
5. Direct equity (India)
6. US stocks and ETFs (tech & genomics)
7. Crypto currency (interest deposits)

helpful

Company offers 200% match on the first 3% of 401k contributions, vested immediately. How is that relative to other firms?

like

What are some good modern/post-pandemic personal finance books you can recommend?

If I knew my parents would pay off all my student loans I would have taken out more grad plus loans and just pocketed the money. Smh.

like

Words to say, questions to ask, things to do when a client who moved their money to year exactly one year ago, blind sides you with ACATS out after you’ve made 13.7% because he is conservative? GO!

like

Are we on recession? My portfolio is super down - low cost ETF investor here

like

What is happening with GHIV is it a good time to buy?

like

More Posts

TAG candidate here. I know this is a not a cpa firm but does the firm cover state licensing fees? I’m a cpa in Illinois and NY. Will they cover both?

like

Any NJBs out there?

like

Hi can anyone refer me in amdocs for job id:167165 for java developer?

like

I’m looking for a good Michigan based accountant/tax person. I’ve been freelancing remotely from Michigan and I need someone who’s familiar with the ad game. Any Recommendations/referrals would be much appreciated.

Post PA outcomes here!

like
like

How much should I have in the bank before going solo?

like

How realistic is it to move from an in-house counsel role to the business side (strategy / finance / sales)

like

Opinions on career clerkships? Especially with a two year old and wanting another child eventually.

like

When you realize the greatest value add you can bring to the deal today is picking up everyone's lunch

like

How do you and your partner (married or not married) split financials?

like

Anyone recently joined Optum in India? Did you receive welcome gift?

I'm studying proton therapy (radiation) and it's the most amazing thing I've ever seen. The fact that we can target tumors with so much accuracy is incredible

like

Where is everyone? Let’s get some ideas flowing.

like

Any thought in working 3x12s a week vs a typical 5x8 or 4x10? I am working 3x12 and have to work some weekends and I am not sure if I like it. I am 25yrs lmk maybe I am just young? Thoughts?

like

Hey Guys,
Looking for a job in any established e commerce company as a Key account manager. I have 8 years of experience. Location - NCR
Please help. Thank you

like

Hello everyone, other than LinkedIn, indeed, Dice, or zip recruiter what are other job search sites that people use ?

like

It's freezing tonight bitter cold. I just ordered Chinese and I'm not sure if that was a shitty thing to do. I think they need to make money so if no one calls that wouldn't be good. I did tip well

like

Anyone here on a road biking club team etc? Have a bike and want to start (beginner) but would like to in a group setting. Any groups you know of highly appreciated.

like

Additional Posts in Everything crypto

We are climbing without the help of asians. Hopefully they’ll add some muscle tonight.

like

Goodbye XRP! Thanks for the awesome gains and good luck hitting that absurd $100B market cap 😁

like

What do you guys think on alt L1’s like avax and solana - cost basis was like 80 and 100 on both lmao. Are we done here? Might just stick to eth and btc moving forward, this is too much…

like

Where’s the McK group owner who banned Lane for being way less inconvenient than this Capgemini futurologist?

like

Late in the game with buying crypto. Single but with limited savings with which to splurge. What is a good price point during a 'dip', and which 'stock' is best in my situation (LTC, BTC, ETC, etc.?)

like

Any good ICOs cmg up?

like

Anybody have experience using EtherDelta? How the hell do I get my money from EtherDelta back to Ethereum and out? Been trying for a week and the transfer isn’t working

Ether is back. Let the bulls run 🌖👩🏽‍🚀🚀

like

The past 24 hours

Post Photo
like

Would ETH be the next BTC?

like

I have been DCAing over the last few months on binance and then moving the tokens to my Celsius wallet.

It has become really difficult to keep track of the actual cost of the tokens and profit/loss.

Any software or app recommendations, I am almost inclined to start an excel spreadsheet to keep track now

like

Who is getting into NFT? Friends recently just printing money like the fed on this. Willing to risk a few thousand. You all ?

likefunny

Best NFt play for <5 EtH? Any thoughts?

like

How many people here hold VRA? I've been adding to my holdings (not large) but so far community is great and part of Amazon Partnership for advertising. Already some adoption which means the management team will start to burn the token supply

like

Converting btc or eth on the poloniex has a tax implication ? I read an article sometime back and cant find it now. Does Anyone here know something about it ? How is the conversion tracked ? How would you file gains ? How do you all plan on documenting that this tax year ?

like

Which crypto platform do you use and why? Looking to invest ~$20k - most of which into BTC and ETH. Looking for opinions.

like

Anyone bought domain names from Unstoppable domain? Thinking of picking up a few cheaper ones

like

Is Monaco a good buy? They’re being Listed on 3 new exchanges in Dec, but down 15pc today!

like

do we have to report our virtual currency holdings to our company? For the sake of independence or something?

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal