Amazon L6 senior product role. Offer came in much lower than expected at $215k ($152k base, 56.4K Y1 and 46k Y2 and 43 RSUs). Any suggestions on how to negotiate?

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-So over 4 years your total cash is: $710,400
-Your 43 RSU I would set a very conservative target at $4k.
-Over 4 years thats $882,400
-Annual thats avgs out to: $220,600
- I expect that you do better than $225k per year on avg when your 4 years wrap

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So it’s more money at a company that offers better exits and near-term upside. This is especially true given that WLB for a Deloitte senior manager is generally pretty miserable.

If you want to go the partner route then it’s a different calculus.

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Low low low! Push for 300. Increase bonus and rsu

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Do I actually need an offer in hand? I am interviewing for a very similar role at door dash that pays $270. But I don’t have an offer. Could I use that as leverage?

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What’s your current position and YOE? It will impact your ability to negotiate.

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SM 11YOE.

I don't think this is that low? This is Seattle right

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DC

Whats your background?

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Strategy consulting/process improvement in our federal practice

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If it’s PMT the numbers are very different

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Ah. No it’s non-tech

Trash. I just got an L4 offer from Adobe for a Sr. Solutions Architect role with 4 YOE in a LCOL for $165k base $42k bonus $70k/4yr RSUs and $10k signing

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D2 my background is analytics consulting. What role did you interview for, what office, and what level is the role?

Product. I’m 7 years post MBA at accenture federal services.

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I’m at $210k now

Seems low. Is it technical or non-technical?

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Non technical

If it’s a L6 PM in HQ2 it’s not a super low offer. The L6 PM comp goes upto 260k in Seattle (with most offers at 220k) . HQ2 is about 15% lower

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HQ2 and Seattle are about the same.

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Oh I thought it's uauoayy atkeast 280

Is it business product or technical product?

Business

Any tech skills?

No non tech

That’s like near bottom of band, def push for a lot more

It’s a wide range from MBA hires to more experienced hires so in Seattle it can go between approximately $200k in years 1 and 2, to over $300k in years 3 and 4 given RSU appreciation.

If you look back 4 years, share price was under $1k. The offers 4 years ago would be slightly lower total comp but they were issuing as many as 150 RSU to non-tech product managers and slightly more to PM-T’s (I joined about 5 years ago as an L6 PM-T and got 200 RSU’s)

If you joined 4 years ago as a non-tech PM, your comp this year would be approximately $340k.

Don't RSUs get added to total comp too

Yes, so with 5% vesting in year one it’s only $215

What practice are you in AFS?

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