Are there any conservatives like me left anymore? The ones who are pro-democracy, pro checks and balances in governance, support liberal markets, have a global outlook that reinforces the soft power we’ve projected abroad for 70 years?

All there’s left of my party is a collection of vacuous bumper sticker slogans like ‘lock her up’, peddling conspiracy theories, and chest-thumping support for ‘law and order’ — without actually respecting the law, norms of governance and our institutions.

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Yes, the Lincoln Project Republicans are still alive and kicking. Not all have succumbed to Jim Jones 2.0

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Romney 2016 camping alums will have something out shortly explaining why, after fighting to defeat Obama & Biden, we are now voting for Biden.

There are plenty of us out here

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Yes, I still hold those views too. The two-party system being what it is, I will vote for Trump anyway over a fiscally liberal alternative whose platform amounts to billions in additional spending. I would much prefer a deficit hawk, which is what we will desperately need post-COVID, but none is being offered to us.

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2% growth isn't "booming". Just media branding to make Obama look good. And Obama still holds the record for adding to the national debt.

If Biden was running on deficit reduction you may have a case here. He's absolutely not. He is campaigning on increasing taxes but also increasing spending by nearly twice as much.

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Alas, the consequences of our two party system. It would be nice to have conservative intellectuals again to debate real policy

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You're not alone. At least two of us

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Yes and we’re called moderate Democrats now.

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FWIW, I was a pretty consistent GOP voter until 2012 where I liked the job Obama was doing (although I thought Romney was decent too) and 2016 where I absolutely voted Clinton. I think that’s a similar voting pattern for my friends who share a similar political orientation to me. But I think we’re so few and far in between and the Republican supporters I meet nowadays are just in a completely different headspace.

We used to be the party of Reagan, George Schulz, James Baker, McCain, Romney and even until recently we had a good crop like Kasich and up-and-comers like Will Hurd and even Ben Sasse. And while we might have disagreed with Democrats on policy, especially wedge issues (abortion etc) we at least had a common agreement on democratic and institutional norms - and a tacit understanding of the minimal viable level of competence for Government.

But somehow we’ve now convinced ourselves that some guy off Celebrity Apprentice is a vanguard for conservative thought, policy and principles. It’s so insane I can’t even fathom it.

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I'm not conservative, but am friends with many who feel like you do. Trump has been the worst thing for sensible Republicans such as yourself. He has almost a cult following which is scary.

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I know at least a handful of Republicans who won't be voting for Trump. And I know a handful that will only vote for him because they can't get behind liberal policies.

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I miss that kind of conservative. I didn’t usually agree (maybe 20% conservative, 80% of the time on board with liberals) but it felt like those conservatives approached their position in good faith rather than repeating a motto like a dittohead.

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I felt like we had better outcomes as a nation when there was healthy debate between two groups of people who amicably disagreed on policy. The right answer was usually somewhere in the middle.

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The left is more unhinged and insane. Politics across the board has downgraded rapidly in recent years. However the intersectionality and post modernism and progressive nutcase activism is fueling the fire in 2020

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Add one here. Hoping ones the current White House occupant is gone, along with many of his enablers, we can get back to basics.

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Romney is still out there.

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I sincerely hope THIS group you describe is the actual silent majority.

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Either MAGA or move to Iran.

#SorryNotSorry

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D3 - in the rare, unlikely, and highly improbable event that Trump loses - will you be moving to Iran?

Pandemic has helped you become enlightened. That's the positive side of this experience. Now, next step is #DumpTrump2020

Yes, but we are all racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, etc according to the left because we don’t explicitly align with the left.

Nope. Only the MAGA Repubs.

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