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Entirely depends on where you work. I work 50-55 hours most weeks. Some weeks I’m at 45, others I’m at 60. But it’s significantly less stress, and the people (both lawyers and business clients) are significantly more reasonable.
I second this. It’s all about the company and also the size of their legal team.
I work 8-4:30 most days, work life balance is great.
I moved in-house just before the pandemic, so my experience is limited. My understanding and impression (and limited experience) is that there are busy stretches as you approach closings and at other times as well, but that outside of those stretches, working weekends is unusual and working beyond the dinner hour isn’t all that frequent.
Your deals may be more spaced out (depending on your role) than when handling multiple clients as outside counsel, but you’ll also probably have more administrative/Human Resources obligations (just as a manager of others, not in a legal capacity).
But the stress isn’t only lower, it’s of a different qualitative nature. The things that stress me now are also the things I thrive on (doing the deals themselves) as compare to the things that stressed me most as a partner at my firm (competition for my existing client relationships (whether originated or managed by me), unreasonably demanding clients, fee pressure, business development pressure) which were truly emotionally exhausting at times
Agreed, this is really helpful insight. Appreciate you sharing.
I’ve been in house for a few months now. My observation so far is that I actually am in control of my work/life balance. If I want to work past the 8:30-5:30 time frame, that’s up to me. I will glance at emails that come in the evening, but I do not respond, nor do I have to respond (unless it is absolutely urgent). I’m still learning and adjusting to that change, but it’s been really nice for my mental health. I can finally “log off” and live my life.
Privacy. B2B med devices and robotics
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I work in late stage tech. My boss is a nightmare. My job was awesome until he came.
Ugh I'm sorry A2. Sounds just like entitled partners.
I work long hours on occasion ... But generally it's 9-5:30
I work for a start-up. While the hours can be long (I average 55 a week), there is greater flexibility and the deadlines are typically less stringent than litigation.
I went from a Fortune 500 to a start up
It's so much better than at a firm. Sometimes it gets crazy busy but the only real times I work off hours (super early or really late) is when I have a call with foreign counsel on the other side of the world.
I work 8-6 most days and we have over 100 attorneys.... the work is very bland. Definitely industry driven, but you don’t see reward for you work like you do at a firm and there’s hardly any upward movement.
Interesting, what kind of company?
I work crazy hours in house but the decision is mine. My employer would be perfectly fine if I worked standard hours. I don't I think you get that at a firm
It depends on where you work and what kind of law. I worked in house for an insurance company for years. I had 70 litigation cases- all by myself. My paralegal lived in a completely different time zone and only drafted answers and discovery. I did every single thing. Now because the pay was crap I refused to put in long hours but I could easily work 75+ hours a week. I was never home as I’d have to drive all over the state of Florida for depositions and mediations. I would have about 3-4 depositions and two mediations a week.
I dated a patent attorney and he worked in house and would have calls at 2 am because the clients were in China. At my current job I’m in house at a State University so the hours are much better for work/life. It’s mainly a 9-5.
I found in-house to be more reasonable except during the occasional crisis. Also enjoyed getting an understanding of overall business goals rather than just discrete work allocated to outside counsel.
I work a lot of 50-55 hour weeks but I love what I’m doing in house
Generalist for a manufacturing company. Primary focus currently is l&e, privacy, litigation management and procurement (contracts). Passed off commercials contracts nearly a year ago to a new hire