At what year do you become a midlevel?

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When you get a junior under you on deals.

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So funny you'd ask this because I was ruminating on this today. I'm now a 4th year and hate the idea of being a mid level. I do enjoy asking first years to do tasks I don't like.

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Varies by firm whether it’s formally year 3 or 4.

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3rd or 4th. You start transitioning to midlevel tasks in third year, but are undoubtedly one by 4th.

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Year 3 at my firm. I think it’s year 4 at others.

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3.

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3 or 4

3 if you’re solid, 4 if you’re blob

So is class of 2019 a mid level?

I feel like a high schooler

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