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I just don't understand how to justify buying one until the charging infrastructure is there and solid state batteries are a common practice + the cost of electricity needs to dramatically drop. It's like being one of the first to own a gas car but gas stations barely exist. Being a pioneer and a trend setter is a luxury for the wealthy and in this cas IMO means having the ability to afford 1 EV and 1 gas car for yourself.
I'm fairly rural. Closest major city is a 2 hour drive away. I understand what you are saying, but it is very situational and will not be the best thing for everyone. You have to make the assessment for yourself. My sister has an EV and only uses the 110 outlet in her carport for her everyday driving.
If you want an EV, get a Tesla. I have had one for 3 frigid Calgary/Canadian winters. Nothing beats it. There is a bit of a learning curve to maximize the benefits but once you do you will never go back. I also have a gas guzzling truck and I do wake it up from hibernation for hauling in the summer but I miss my ev every mile driven in that. Some cons of going with Tesla.
1. Tires
2. Elon
3. EV haters.
4. Alberta Government.
I have an EV.
Good things: so comfortable to drive, not hard to find a place to charge (contrary to popular opinion), so much storage room (we have made several cross country trips with our family of 4 comfortably)
Bad things: people are nearly violently opposed to EVs where I live and it can lead to pettiness, people are very ignorant about EVs here. Tires, EVs use up tires rather quickly, but the fuel and oil change savings make up for it. No Tesla service centers nearby, so I have to travel at least 2 hours to get my car looked at.
It’s not Elon, why be a hater? He brought EVs mainstream. Lighten up people.
My monthly Exxon gas bill paid for mine. Best things are acceleration, quietness, and nearly maintenance free. Charge at home and work, commute 140 miles round trip, and use Electrify America when traveling distance.
It's not what you asked, but it was a strange experience for me so I'm sharing.
I needed to rent a vehicle to drive from Minneapolis to Des Moines for training. I ordered a standard car, but when I got to Enterprise they only have a minivan or an EV Silverado (2024 with about 25k miles). After confirming the EV would get me the distance on a single charge, I chose it.
About 10 minutes into the drive I noticed a message on the screen to "Service High Voltage System". Everything was running fine so I kept going.
After first day of training I went on the hunt for a charge. At the first station, I tried both of their chargers and couldn't get either to work. Went to a nearby Chevy dealer and they also couldn't get it to take a charge. Some battery insulation issue that, apparently, can be pretty bad.
Chevy folks said it would be at least a week before they'd have an opening with one of their EV techs. Since it was a rental, this was not my problem. Enterprise gave me a different vehicle to get home.
But, the odd piece of all of this was this: I've had vehicles before that had warning lights on, leaked oil, bad gages, etc. But, if I wanted, I was always able to drive the car to the gas station, fill it up, and keep driving it (even if that wasn't a good idea).
The notion that I couldn't even re-fuel the EV was very foreign. If it was actually my vehicle, then I'd have to manage the final 20% of the battery for the next 7-10 days to get me through my days AND to still get me to the dealer for my appointment. That was an eye-opener for me. I wasn't really looking to buy one, but I don't hate them either. But this experience, and thinking through the bigger implications of this issue, would really give me pause on buying one.
Good luck on the decision!
I think that argument can be made for most newer vehicles these days. The complexity of the vehicles can easily leave you vehicle stranded in a vehicles dealership for several days, even with the level of diagnostics that we design into them. I am speaking as a person that has 35 years of design experience in automotive infotainment and engine control electronics.
I have a Nissan Leaf. It has had multiple recalls, but Nissan took care of them quickly. I like to refer to the drive as zippy, the response is amazing compared to an ICE. I charge at home; in our rural area, charging stations are very scarce. My commute is about an hour, over a mountain, and a full charge completes the round trip, including winter.
Negatives, as stated above, tires, they wear much faster, shopping around can help offset this burden. Winter travel does require a little more planning, as the cold definitely affects your range.
But with all of that we will be trading in our EV for another EV next year. The savings on gas are definitely a plus.
I read this as getting into EV. I've worked in EV for 10 years, and have an EV. I also took a road trip across Nevada in a Tesla model S when I worked for them. Charging wasn't an issue on the road trip other than you tend to get a little bored waiting for it to finish. The EV we purchased has been great. I can charge for free at work. I ended up with a Hyundai Ionic.
I have a Hyundai Kona EV. When I charge out on the road I walk. Usually in a parking lot/mall area. I enjoy having to get out of the car for 30-45 minutes after riding for 3 hours.
I have a Chevy Bolt in the Atlanta suburbs, and love it. It comfortably fits my family with two carseats and trunk storage. I only have to charge it once a week or so for regular driving to work and around town, and my office just installed free chargers. I love the lack of oil changes and gas station stops - little things add up when you're a working parent!
Food for thought: EVs are on average 30% heavier than their gas counterparts but the safety infrastructure along our roadways aren't designed to withstand crashes from vehicles of those weights. A recent study by the University of Nebraska showed that EVs crashing into safety structures resulted in significantly more damage both to the vehicle and the safety structure. All that's to simple say EVs are statistically more dangerous on the road.
I’m sure that the weight of an Tesla compared to a Ford F350 is comparable, or less. So, I think it really is a moot point. Nobody would complain about the weight on the roads, if the whole US population bought F350 pickup trucks.
I have a Nissan leaf and in general I find it a great car for 95% of my driving tasks. It replaced a Pontiac vibe which has decent gas mileage. With the vibe I spent about $250 per month in gasoline, other general expenses were brakes, tires and oil changes. With the leaf, now 4 years old, my electric bill went up $50 a month saving me a total of $200 a month in energy costs. Oil changes are non existent so let's call that $10 a month in savings. Brakes are hardly ever used if you use the regenerative braking feature and mine still are original with plenty of life left. Let's call that another $10 a month in savings. Maintenance on electric drive train in general is lower with fewer things to break and better mtbf on the parts but I'm not sure how to quantify that. Overall I'm saving $270 per month over the gas equivalent. This is considering charging at home only, numbers go out the window for charging stations.
I would not make this my only car however as range is limited to maybe 70 miles (140 round trip) without going to a charging station and then the time and cost are prohibitive. When heat or ac are used range drops further. I'd recommend a winter package with heated steering wheel and seats so you don't need to run the heat as much in cold weather.
Overall an ev has many advantages and disadvantages compared to a gas car. Comparing a gas car to an ev is like comparing a hammer and a wrench. Context matters on what you're hoping to accomplish.
Hope that helps.
I have been thinking about getting one too but haven't made the splurge. I am glad you posted this though because it gives insight to what people like and don't like about them which will definitely help me decide whether or not I want to go ahead and get one OP.