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Do you think consultants should have a union and be regulated? With all the extra hours of work your salary is basically less than someone at McDonald's full time. Overtime pay?

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I feel like I'm constantly repeating this, unions were useful before the gov't stepped in to ensure the minimum standard working environment and wage. Now that the gov't is involved, they only exist to line the pockets of those in leadership. Plus the logic of "Oh but what if you get a pay increase or more overtime for my existing work" is complete bananas in this industry. You are literally paid to run cost-benefit analyses - your compensation should be no different. Increases in salary should be tied to performance and not some arbitrary group of people demanding more money.

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A2 - This is a simplistic view of unions. Unions are needed where an employer has "too much" power in the economic relationship for whatever reason. "Too much" is obviously subjective, but to suggest they are completely irrelevant today is too simplistic. I don't think consulting firms have "too much" power because there are many firms and the labor to be supplied is specialized enough that individuals can effectively bargain for themselves. But I don't think that analysis holds in all cases.

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Hilarious. What better way to drive competition out of a competitive industry. Consulting can only exist as an unregulated industry.

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Ok Bernie

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Such a stupid post.

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At the end of the day we're compensated fairly well and have more exit opportunity than just about any other industry. The big money will come later.

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Fuck no I do not want a union and I especially do not want the government to "help" me.

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I don't think union = regulation = hourly pay. So which element are you really for here?

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No

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God 🙄

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I hope you're getting paid well, if not, you need to negotiate that. Don't just look at the paycheck, look at the experience and exposure you're gaining. That will pay dividends if you play your cards right.

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Who here has actually worked with a union labor force??? Unions aren't just good for lining the pockets of the leaders -- they also ensure safe and decent working environments, employee performance standards and discipline processes, and large, organized labor forces that management benefit from. However, as a thought-worker, consultants should constantly be negotiating as individuals.

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When was the last time a sports union engaged in violence? Or airline pilots? You see a lot of elementary school teachers beating up school principals in parking lots? The doormen and maintenance staff in my NYC building haven't beat up the super yet either...

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Unions tend to be violent I do not support violence especially not intimidation, threats, corruption, organized crime, that unions are associated with.

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C1 - I don't know if you're referring primarily to historical practices, but I don't think what you're listing is common today or recently. And management is certainly is guilty of these offenses as well.

I would have agreed with this post as a first year analyst working at ACN. I was local, working 100 hrs a week making 54K.. Now not so much, we are paid well

"Yah ma, I gor meself a nice union job. No not by the docks. Me gonna advice CXO's. I work more hours they pay me more money ma. Did you pack my sandwich?"

C2 - Talk about an elitist attitude...

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