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“Prioritizing?” Absolutely not. Every decision we make, every single day of our lives, is a balance of priorities, where one rises above others.
The decision to workout or sleep in. The decision to stay late and push an idea or settle for “good enough.”
What we choose to prioritize is merely a reflection of what we value.
When we prioritize race in hiring, all we are doing is deciding that, in this moment, for this role, in this company, bringing in someone with a different set of experiences is more important than other things. Not that those things are unimportant. A good book is still important. Killer ideas are still important. On point presentation skills are important too. But racial diversity is more important.
We can walk and chew gum at the same time.
I gave plenty of good answers. I just refuse your framing, which confuses sports salaries with reparations and assumes someone like me must be a “he”
Our society is racist, and at the institutional level the way that racism works in this country is to give power and opportunities to white people and thereby deprive them from people who are not white. That is not debatable, which means racism is a factor in every hiring decision whether we admit it or not. Since not hiring people based race is not an option, choosing to intentionally hire people who are not white is not racist, it is facing the reality of how racism affects people and working against it to prevent it from disproportionately depriving people of color of opportunities.
@SeniorPlanner1- is your family European or Asian?
Call it whatever you want. Its obviously the right thing to do. And if you think it isn't, then you're definitely racist.
Shouting “that’s racist!” is a losing strategy. If you actually care about achieving a more just industry and world (rather than loudly demonstrating that you’re one of the good ones), you’ll take a different tack.
I think hiring based on purely race alone may be racist but intentionally opening up the hiring pool and picking a more diverse group of people to give opportunities/to interview and then picking the African American or Asian person because they’re the best candidate isn’t racist. It’s equity.
Only if you’re hiring white people because of their race. That’s the only way that could be racist.
Good God this site is turning at nutty as twitter
Unpopular opinion: hire based on skill, experience and performance. Eliminate race/ gender and sexual orientation from the equation.
This should be the only valid direction for a society that truly cares about progress.
AND
As much as possible, attack the issues inhibiting skills, experience and performance among groups you’d like to see more of.
100% yes.
Booo
Yeah lotta people in this thread missed the part of freshman year where you air your bad takes and then eventually read A Book and figure this shit out
Prioritising hiring people by race, yes. Prioritising widening the potential hiring pool by race, no.
OP you’re making us look ignorant and tone deaf af 🥴
Saatchi 2, I think your colleague Saatchi 1 takes the cake.
Thanks M1 - it is very difficult for people to believe/accept/admit that racism against non-Whites exists and that privileges a benefit in the workplace
Sounds like homeopathic racism. The less evidence there is of it, the stronger it gets.
Yes. Absolutely. And I say that as a minority myself.
"Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group"
Based on this definition, yes.
I am a POC (creative) and apparently I’m an “extraordinary talent” because I am on an O-1 visa. You would think that knowing that the agency has a talented POC I’d have a platform to operate off. But over the course of 14 years I have languished being underpaid and under promoted, all because our perception of diversity is out of whack and our intense, laughable. It’s a box that’s still half checked. We cruise under the radar enough to not be called out and most diversity hires are exec. board level and up so they make some PR news. To top it all off most diversity hires are in fact Americans (colored people born in the US) which rips into the entire idea of hiring diverse talent to foster a new way of thinking and not contribute to the same cultural narrative clad in colored skin. It’s misdirection at its best. The truth is very few care about the issue of diversity to bring about systemic change to the people in question.
Yes.
Boo
Honestly, I call this progress. Whatever your opinion / beliefs, at least we are having this dialogue openly. Usually minorities are relegated to suffering in silence or talking amongst themselves, with most Whites avoiding to talk about race at all.
Maybe it’s better to not worry about semantics, loaded words like “racism”, and instead ask the question - is it good for society, the industry, the work.
You’re right
It’s important to address the imbalance!
In many states it's illegal. Even though you have the best of intentions you're still taking race I to account when making a decision and that's illegal
Yes
I think it's a little like saying in a job description, "MBA Preferred" - is it a mandatory, no. Does it give you different perspective that you need on the team, and therefore complements the people you've already got - yes. Does that then make them a more attractive candidate overall? Yes.
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Are you equating an MBA to a persons race? Think on that one a bit deeper.
Yes, hire only on merit. Strive for diversity to hear new ideas.