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“Prioritizing?” Absolutely not. Every decision we make, every single day of our lives, is a balance of priorities, where one rises above others.
The decision to workout or sleep in. The decision to stay late and push an idea or settle for “good enough.”
What we choose to prioritize is merely a reflection of what we value.
When we prioritize race in hiring, all we are doing is deciding that, in this moment, for this role, in this company, bringing in someone with a different set of experiences is more important than other things. Not that those things are unimportant. A good book is still important. Killer ideas are still important. On point presentation skills are important too. But racial diversity is more important.
We can walk and chew gum at the same time.
I gave plenty of good answers. I just refuse your framing, which confuses sports salaries with reparations and assumes someone like me must be a “he”
Our society is racist, and at the institutional level the way that racism works in this country is to give power and opportunities to white people and thereby deprive them from people who are not white. That is not debatable, which means racism is a factor in every hiring decision whether we admit it or not. Since not hiring people based race is not an option, choosing to intentionally hire people who are not white is not racist, it is facing the reality of how racism affects people and working against it to prevent it from disproportionately depriving people of color of opportunities.
@SeniorPlanner1- is your family European or Asian?
Do you think it’s racist when an agency hires less than 4% Latinos and 5% Black people in a city that’s 30% Latino and 25% Black?
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I think Professor Christopher Boulton’s dissertation entitled “Rebranding Diversity: Colorblind Racism Inside The U.S. Advertising Industry”, available below, addresses in scathing detail why generations of “must-hires” got the industry to where it is now. He went semi-undercover into Madison Ave agencies and discovered that behind every employee saying, “It’s wrong to take race into account when hiring” was the white son, daughter, neighbor or babysitter of a client or agency exec who got their own position by being a must-hire, and tried hiding the privilege and pulled strings that got them there.
Until those kinds of practices, and the legacy it left on the agency structure and leadership over years and years are addressed, the question about race is way down the line after, “Why did we let must-hires go on for so long, and why is it still routinely happening now?”
https://doi.org/10.7275/95qd-5h25
Raise of hands, how many in here read the dissertation?
I think it’s smart to seek out a diverse team to ensure relevancy of voice. You can call it whatever you like.
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OPs question and your response aren’t mutually exclusive. Objective / method. I also agree with you.
People have such shallow understandings of how racism functions but simultaneously love to share their high school-level opinions.
I’d love to hear your condescending post doctorate opinion
Looks like a lot of people don’t actually understand the cultural and sociopolitical definition of racism 👀
This important issue, once labeled affirmative action, was definitively settled by the seminal episode of Diff'rent Strokes circa 1986. So many people in this thread have to educate themselves and watch it
Or address the real issue …. how do you balance an industry that is imbalanced due to historical exclusion, favoritism and bias against non-White people?
I wanna be friends with Strategist 1 🥺
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Of course it is. By definition.
Broad and narrow... Why not just say Racist and systemically Racist...? Or is that too Narrow?
It’s called equity & we love it.
A straw man argument based on a Vonnegut story published 60 years ago? You can do better than that 😅
My best friend grew up wealthy, in an affluent neighborhood, parents paid for out of state college, bought her a car, etc. She’s also black. I’m from a poor red state and am very white. People have been beating down her door for the past two years (mine too, I know we’re all in this boat right now) but she’s had her pick of absolutely anything. But people still follow us around when we’re in higher-end stores, speak to me first, explain very obvious things to her like she just learned english.
So no, I don’t think putting in efforts to even the playing field are racist. Reparations are still in order.
No
If it’s in New York: 2 Black, 2 Latino, 1 Asian
Of course. Any decision based on race is racist.
And "tipping the scales" only encourages racism because it allows racists to dismiss diversity hires as tokens who don't deserve to be there.
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Sigh. This conversation again. Try some recommended reading, a reminder of what the real problem is.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/11/02/opinion/culture/board-diversity-black-women.amp.html
Instead of arguing about the definition of racism maybe should reword it to the actual question at hand:
Are you ok with hiring people based on race?
I agree the question I asked doesn’t really have a point besides semantics
At my last agency, I had the opportunity to hire a few people as a client exploded and according to my HR managers, I was “really picky.” I went through a raft of their initial suggestions and two recruiters and then started reaching out to my contacts for recommendations and hired … three women of color. Not on purpose. That’s just who made it through my process. I was accused of trying to change the culture (which I guess in retrospect I was - I wanted ambitious, passionate creatives). I had some VERY awkward conversations with my senior leadership who felt “everything was changing too fast” but honestly … I just hired fucking awesome creatives. Who had fantastic potential and challenged me and got me excited about what we could create together.
GCD1 what was the outcome? We’re they accepted by their peers/leadership?
Saatchi and Saatchi continuing to represent, lol.
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Missed you.
It is. Similar to current practices in the Ivies discriminating against Asians in the interest of balance.
It doesn’t say anything about the merits of the case at all.
I’m all about Going out of my way to provide opportunities for underrepresented candidates. But I think some policies go to far like Grey New York recent policy prohibiting the hiring of white men in management positions.
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I think in the last 18 months grey has hired 6 ecds for new work or to replace people. 2 women, 2 nonwhite men and 2 white men.
Seems like a pretty good balance and totally disproves this post.
Moving on lol.
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Not if you see the playing field as tipped and trying to level it out. Balancing the scales.
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Yeah you right it's as racist as hiring one race and repressing the careers of others. But you know what, if it helps lift up others then I'm gonna take it. Cos what is your non-racist way forward when the field has been tipped so far one way? Any other action is lifting up that tip while maintaining it.
This is not even the first time this has been discussed and argued by people far more articulate than I.