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I am looking to identify committed Christians within Deloitte who would be interested in serving on the US board of a global non-profit committed to restoring the lives of those who have been traumatized via human trafficking or gender-based violence in SE Asia. Deloitte has been instrumental in partnering with Hagar International via pro-bono consulting and we would love to leverage this partnership on our US board.
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The group you describe is getting smaller… most people do not believe that homosexuality is wrong biblically. Practicing it, however, is clearly condemned amongst other patterns of sin. “Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals… will inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Cor 6:9-10)
Given biblical testimony, I think our first responsibility from God is to exhort individuals toward the cleansing, holiness, and righteousness found in Christ. (1 Cor 6:11)
On your question: Yes, marriage is clearly defined as one-man and one-woman (Genesis 2:24, Ephesians 5:22-33). We should strive to be subject to our government leaders in everything (Romans 13:1-5) as long as it is not wrong / evil in which case we must obey God rather than men (Acts 5:29). We should seek to present the good news that God saves people from His wrath against their sin - including practicing homosexuality - through Christ (Romans 5:8-9). And we should oppose the practice and promotion of homosexuality at every level because it is contrary to God’s command (1 Cor 6:9-10).
Thank you very much for the comprehensive answer! Super helpful!
My view:
What two consenting adults want to do is their business. They can sin however they want. The government’s role isn’t to police people’s personal morality, but protect individuals rights to liberty, property, life.
I super recommend Ryan Anderson’s writing on this- he talks about how if marriage is for the good of the family and ultimately of greater society, than it should be protected as such, and other things that are not genuinely marriages logically shouldn’t be afforded the same benefits if they intrinsically cannot provide the same goods for the family and society
My personal opinion is that what would make someone not like Christians who say that homosexuality is a sin, but I won't force my beliefs on you is that we are so fixated on homosexuality as a sin. As if that's a greater sin than someone lying, stealing, lusting, or any other sin out there. This is not about hate the sin not the sinner thing, but more so that I should have the same opinion on all sins the same way and then also practice what Jesus said judge not least you be judged. Or even worrying about the plank in my eye before I try to remove the speck from others.
I’d like to follow up on Deloitte 1’s comment.
As I re-discover my faith and re-learn the Bible, I completely agree with the sentiment that we cannot force our beliefs on others.
No human is without sin, so we cannot condemn others for what we believe to be sinful behavior. I pray for them to find peace with the way they live their lives, I remain as patient as possible in listening to anyone’s story and background…even if they have differing spiritual beliefs, and I do my best to make others feel comfortable around me.
That is the most I can do for their lives anyway. By trying to force any beliefs to someone who isn’t receptive to them, we just create animosity, anger, and resentment.
Just my two cents, though.
Laws can't enforce beliefs. They enforce behavior. The entire Old Testament showed us that!
As for marriage, that never should have been adjudicated by the government because that leaves the definition of marriage in government (rather than church) hands.
Are you referring to marriage equality?
Yes. Marriage is between a man and woman, other relationships should not fall under ‘marriage’