Have any creatives experienced the "favorite team" thing? Where all the work miraculously goes to them? Brief after brief. Time after time.

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at
Highlighted IconHIGHLIGHTED

Yes, I have been both the favorite team and not the favorite. When it’s the latter, I’ve worked over a few months to become a favorite and have always managed to get there.

By “work” I don’t mean just working harder/being a good creative. But also “work” in terms of building relationships and making sure people know my goals.

CDs and ECDs give briefs to people they feel they can trust.

Make them trust you.

likeupliftinghelpful

This.

like

The favorite team is usually the best team

likefunny

What don’t you understand about the phrase “in the incident I’m talking about?"

like
Recent IconRecent

Yes. It means they’re the ones who can concept and create things. How do you not know this as a CD?

likefunny

Yes. It will be. Why wouldn’t I want a team who can make my job easier? Occam’s razor my friend.

The worst is when you are the “favorite team” for the CD who gets the worst briefs. No chance to work on becoming the favorite team for the CD that the ECD chooses for the best briefs

likefunny

Been there. It suckkkks

like

Yes and you have no life while you see other teams leave at 6 on the dot. Feels like princess jasmine who just wants to go outside the palace.

like

I'm not the fav and I still don't get to leave at a decent hour so I feel you

I definitely have favorites – they're ones who have proven to me that I can trust them, they're smart, can concept, won't complain about smaller things like social posts at a moment's notice as well.

I've had some people wonder why they aren't favorites. It comes down to character and how you've treated other assignments. If I can't trust you to do the work, then it's going to be back on my plate. So yes, I'll prefer people I can depend on.

likehelpful

Despite what we were led to believe in ad school, it’s not a CDs job to spread around great opportunities. Their job is to guide the best work, so they go back to the best well over and over again or one they know will consistently deliver

like

In theory, yes, but the work is rather underwhelming, to put it mildly.

like

I work on multiple accounts and play both roles neither is fun. As a not-favorite team I feel like I’m not given a shot. I hate seeing briefs handed to teams that aren’t paying their dues. As a favorite team, I hate the pressure of a large workload as everyone else falls off briefs. I also occasionally have work handed to me that isn’t mine because I am trusted which makes me very uncomfortable. I work hard and do good work on all of my accounts and I know a lot of people working alongside me do too. CDs, It’s one thing to have a team that knows a brand well, or that matches your creative style, but try to be better about playing favorites. You’re not doing anyone any favors.

like

Ok, but if you were running the agency, would you not want the best briefs done by the best team?! Get real.

like

@cd1 come work at my agency. if you're that deep in denial, you're probably the one doing it. One of our ecds has a golden team who always produces the worst work and can't win awards. It's laughable.

I’ve been both the favorite and the whipping boy. Being the favorite is not as great or as perceptible as it may look from the outside. I had to be told; wasn’t aware till someone revealed that my nickname among peers in the creative department was “Golden Boy.” (With the sarcastic finger quotes.) Probably not so perceptible because it feels like a fair reflection of ur ability and/or seniority.

But being the non-favorite? That feels totally unfair, like the system is rigged against u. (Because it is.)

like

I agree it can come down to talent but it’s also a self-sustaining cycle. You do better when you’re liked. CDs work with you and have the patience to see the best part of your idea, you say what you think, you’re more relaxed and confident.

But you get on that track by earning it. None of us can afford to carry a team that can’t do what we need. Maybe it starts by being in with the cd, maybe it’s because you look cool, maybe it’s because you have a great attitude or maybe even great ideas. Or maybe you were around when something needed doing. But whatever it is, if you do a good job, you’re likely to get another project. And more consideration going forward

like

Different decade. Different generation. Same shit

like

Yep. They’re really good but they’d get the tv briefs and we would get the emails and dms

like

Usually, delivering the best work is not nearly as important as resembling the people in the CD’s old fraternity/sorority. Ask anyone (below CD level) at the big mediocre bro-y agencies like Vayner or 72 and they’ll tell you the same thing.

like

Nonsense. Reap, sow, repeat.

Maybe a fair solution here for CDs is to 1) continue to give your best briefs to the teams you prefer to work with but 2) also realize there has to be some implicit bias at play here because there is no such thing as only seeing merit so then you can 3) start a new habit of also giving the brief to teams you would not typically reach out to.
If you are only allowed to work with one team for financial reasons then just ask your CCO to give you some wiggle room on billing so you can give opportunities to underrepresented teams.

like

Yeah... not fun by any means.

like

Yep. Got laid off once for not being on one

like

Seen it for the first time this year. Can understand favoritism if the work they produced was good, but man, it is objectively bad. Makes the whole situation even more frustrating 😑

like

Sounds like the shop you’re at is mediocre at best mate.

we have a few favs at our agency that constantly produce bad work despite getting the best projects.

like

Easier said than done. Yours hiring?

For me, it's about who is great to work with, period. Talent rocks. Big ideas, awesome. Cooperation, teamwork, flexibility, grit--these come through in the clutch and tend to shine brighter, longer.

like

Related Posts

How much international travel do you do? How many YOE do you have? Do you travel business class?

like

Anyone NOT heard back from KKR Capstone after the associate R1 interview?

like

Hi folks,
New to Nagarro, can someone help with below query?

Once the project is allocated the project code will automatically reflect in SAP portal to fill the timesheet against the same or how is it done?

Also what do you guys fill in notes while filling the timesheet when on bench?

Favorite Consulting Meme Instagram accounts?

like

When you’re remote, but the rest of your team is in the client city together doing dinners and hanging out

Post Photo
likefunnyuplifting

Tuesday well spent

Post Photo
likefunnyupliftingsmart

Has hiring slowed down?

like

SAP openings in LTI, DM me for referral

SAP ABAP Hana (5-12 Years)

SAP FICO Hana (5-12 Years)

SAP SD Hana (5-12 Years)

SAP MM Hana (5-12 Years)

SAP MM WM (5-12 Years)

SAP EWM (5-12 Years)

SAP MDG Functional (5-12 Years)

SAP Basis Hana (5-12 Years)

like

Any advice for a first time manager ?
Context: after ~10y in technical then marketing role, taking over a team of analysts, first management position.
Tips, readings, stories, … are welcome 😁

like

@Pro-Trump Fishies, will you accept the results of November if Biden wins quietly or will you support fighting it in court?

likehelpful

Welcome! Wanted to create a place for triangle-specific whining/musing/connections.

like

SO and I (no kids) will be moving to Bay Area in early 2020 with a car. Both will be working in the Palo Alto / Mountain View Area. Better to just live where we work or possible to commute from SF?

like

Any one here from magneti marelli account?

like

Has anyone left EY and submitted a wageworks reimbursement in their last two weeks that they got paid for?

like

Hi Fishes, I'm a Python developer now and I need to switch my role related to AI/ML for long term.
Currently I 've planned two options and I'm bit confused which road i've to take:
1) Do Masters degree in Canada, after that try to get Job in there or US.
2) Do any Master Programs in Here (India) and get a job.
Suggest some ways other than this also welcomed.

YOE : 1.5 years as Python developer

Skills : C, Python, Excel in writing SQL queries, Swagger, Microservices, Docker.

like

Defendant fired his lawyer and decided to represent himself. At the hearing on his attorney’s motion to withdraw, my colleague referred to Defendant as pro se and Defendant gets mad and says “I don’t agree with what you’re saying, idk what that means!!” Um if you don’t know what pro se means maybe you shouldn’t be a pro se defendant 😳

likefunny

Alston & Bird LLP Does anyone have any insight into associate pay, bonuses, min billable hours, and general work/life balance at Alston & Bird LLP? (DC Office)

like

Just fired my therapist. Feels better than it should

like

Finally unlocked terraforming! Here’s my entrance

Post Photo
likeuplifting

Additional Posts in Advertising

Tired of this constant grind and constant layoff situation in NYC. Thinking of making the move to LA. Any thoughts? Yay or nay?

like

Working on a long term brand platform, which had the potential to be a really stellar, powerful body of work.

Sadly, it's being driven into the ground so hard by stakeholders that I have no love left for it. It's slowly becoming an embarrassment.

How do you go about this? Do you just swallow your pride and just take the paycheck? Try to fight for it tooth and nail while you still can?

like

Anyone know rough CD and ECD salary for Germany? And does it vary by city to city? Thanks!

like

If you're in need of a junior writer with cojones hit me up!

like

People whose spouses work in time consuming jobs like doctors and lawyers how the eff do you tend to your home life? My kitchen looks like an animal attacked it.

like

How much do senior strategists in LA make? Moving from NY to LA and wondering how much of a hit in pay I’ll take from lower cost of living or whatever recruiters will say

like

Which house are you choosing? 😎

Post Photo
likefunny

What accounts does Grey Midwest handle? What’s the distinction between them and regular Grey?

like

Getting really frustrated with a boss that is completely bipolar in our interactions. Management does not seem willing to tell them to stop being psycho. Beginning to think the only way out is out

like

I totally understand the hustle of emailing people you don’t know to create opportunities. I just don’t understand why obscure vendors email creatives rather than production 🤦🏻‍♂️

like

How long is too long to wait for your agency to give you a substantive raise or promotion? E.g. how long are you willing to wait between bumps?

like

I think I’m potentially about to be fired this week in retaliation from my boss...what should I do?

like

Anyone else feel like as you move up, you have to work even harder to justify your value to your company as you grow “out of the weeds”? Especially with the fear of layoffs looming over everyone’s heads.

likehelpful

What does this even mean?!

Post Photo
likefunny

Are there any amazing creative directors in Minneapolis? I need someone I can believe in if I'm gonna move there.

like

Laid off, 10 years exp, tired of acct management. Feel so lost. Don't want to go back to agency side. What should I do? I feel like 💩

like

Besides salary, how to pick between job offers?

like

How many times a week do you ask yourself why you’re so terrible at advertising and why is it 1 billion?

like

Have you ever seen a client fired in mid-production?

likefunny

Seeking advice as a junior level employee in strategy land — what are your thoughts on where the agency landscape is headed now? Should I stick with it in the coming years? Should I jump ship and seek comms/brand work elsewhere?

Any and all thoughts appreciated!

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal