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At McK you won’t likely spend much time in the office - you’ll be at client site. So proximity depends on clients. McK is bigger and has more clients. Consulting at MBB is not known for WLB. Depends if you think 12-16 hr days is balanced. People are usually good if you have kids but often it’s a “your kids or your sleep” kind of trade off. This mentality as far as I know is present at all MBB firms because it’s competitive and those who sacrifice WLB end up ahead….and therefore expect you to as well.
Consulting is not the choice for WLB. Consulting exits can offer that though.
Bain home staffing model will have you at home with family a lot more than McKinsey, while still giving you options to travel if you choose to. It’s a pretty clear choice just from the work styles, let alone the fact that you vibes with Bain people more. Come join us!!
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Vibing with the people is definitely a super important factor. I would also agree from friends that Bain wlb is better - people seem to care more, there are mechanisms in place to monitor, and we travel less
Would also consider the types of work done in the office vs what you think you’ll enjoy. Bain’s office staffing model (whilst great in many ways) means your work can be limited by the types of work going on in that office
Ask to lateral your Bain offer to the McKinsey location if they have an office there.
They don't have one.
What McK practice? How do you feel about specializing immediately vs spending a few years doing a variety of things? That's a key factor I think... At Bain you'll get to do a bunch of different industries, capabilities, corporate, PE, etc. And then you get to choose what you specialize in. McK will push you to pick a track asap, or may have even hired you into a practice from the start.
On culture and fit, if it's important to you to build friendships at work, then the choice is clear.
You can transfer offices if you are in good standing in terms of performance, so in the long run that's not too important...unless you are planning to stay for only a short time - you probably need to stay for a year or so before transferring.
Ha, no. You won’t have to pick a track at McK for like 3ish years
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You can ask to meet and talk to more people at McK to see if you would vibe.
Have vibed with 50% of the McK folks. Definitely talked to a bunch and recognize it's still a very small sample size at both firms.
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My experience at Bain is definitely better than what you describe A1.
Yes there are some burners, but even in PEG I averaged 55-60 hours, and in GP more like 55. We typically aim for: 1) no more than one night past 9pm; 2) one finish at 7pm; 3) finish by 6pm Friday; 4) no weekend work. This is almost always feasible, and we often do better.
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