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Oh yeah, I feel like it took me 10 years to start negotiating efficiently. There was a lot less discussion about negotiation in the early 2000s. Early on in my career, I was just grateful to be landing jobs. Nobody in my family had graduated from college or held a true white collar role before, so I was just blown away at how much they were offering in the first place. Took a little while to realize that there was room to ask for more.
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Thanks for sharing. I’m glad you realized the room to ask for more.
I didn’t negotiate this last time; it was a $50k increase, fully remote, with a title that will open other doors should I not be treated appropriately after the hard work needed to re-org.
Mentor
Well - I can see why you didn’t feel the need to negotiate! That would be my ideal scenario right about now.
I had a career “pivot” recently where I was going to a new sphere of knowledge. It was a field I wanted to work towards (analytics) and the offer already came with a 20% bump and they were okay that I had no experience/ willing to teach. I jumped on the offer no negotiations.
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The foot in the door, so to speak. That makes sense!
I felt afraid too at first too since the amounts all seemed big. I learned it’s better to ask than not which has been a huge game changer for me
Mentor
I hope you were able to get what you asked for!
yeah, i didn't really start negotiating my salary until i was in my 30's. tbh, if you're entry-level you really have zero leverage to negotiate when all you want is a foot in the door. i graduated in 2001 and after 9/11 the job market in nyc was awful. i was grateful to have landed my first job that paid $32k a year. i would not want to have jeopardized that for a couple thousand more.
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Those are good points. The job market seems to impact a lot of people’s decision to negotiate or not.
Both of my “corporate jobs” the recruiter has told me salaries are not negotiable so I just took them as is
I agree probably under paid but I’m of the mindset that I let my work do the talking and if they don’t reward me accordingly down the road, someone else will.
Mentor
That is a good perspective as well.
10 years @ 40k??? How are you surviving against inflation?
Yes. 1st one was because I owned the company. It's extremely difficult to negotiate against yourself. The 2nd one was union based, so there's literally no negotiations on your end. Everything else i have successfully negotiated well above posted salary.
Unions do the negotiations on your behalf, so there is no wiggle room. You get what you get, and it usually goes up every year for a set period of the Union contract. Unions can break their contract and strike if the previous contacted salary increases aren't keeping up with area COL and market value but the only 2 tines negotiations happen are #1) contracts renewal or #2) contract break and striking.