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Hi guys , As of now i have offer from four companies @mindtree 20lpa @scb 21.5 lpa + 2.5 lpa @accenture 18.5 lpa @wipro 21 lpa + 2 lpa Which one will be best for better career and work life balance. YOE 6.2 DOMAIN: React js developer My personal preference is SCB but i have some fear about work life balance.. kindly suggest me something best Mindtree Standard chartered gbs Wipro Accenture
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Hey! Any Google folks know if it’s possible to negotiate fully remote if a contract role is hybrid? Personally, I don’t want to relocate and go to the office on a contract role given the current economy. Plus, I’m assuming contractors are the first to go in layoffs. I just think it’s a fair trade off if I’d be allowed to work fully remote. I’m also trying to have flexibility to manage my Airbnb business in a different country. Same time zone as the home office if I’d travel weeks at a time.
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This is pretty standard
Typical. Better to have all of it agreed upon before putting everything in writing. Sometimes it’s easier to negotiate first and then confirm specifics in offer versus having to redo offer letter, request approvals, etc.
Verbally accepting isn’t a set of handcuffs. If we verbally agree to something, and the written document doesn’t reflect what we discussed, I’m not signing. Personally, I only do business with adults so this isn’t really an issue.
It is absurd. I wouldn’t accept anything verbal. Got an offer? Send it over for me to review along with benefits package. Otherwise you’re not serious.
Agreed with the others. Also, depending on the HRIS system they use, once a written offer is generated it may have to go thru a few approvals. Sort of a pain if you have to renegotiate.
Verbal is just verbal. Your verbal acceptance holds no grounds just as their verbal offer doesn’t either…it just aligns expectations and accelerates all the paperwork. Nothing is official until everything is in writing and signed.
And even if you get it in writing to leverage your existing job or other offers, the ball is still in your court.
This is normal. At my company, new hire offer letters have to be approved by at least 5 people, and any time there is a change, all those folks have to approve it again. Details are hashed out first verbally or through email, then put into an official offer letter that only has to get signed off once. Congrats on the offer, OP!
This is normal… the timing sucks because it typically doesn’t leave you enough time to “quit.” Since you don’t have a written offer, you should not quit your job. I would negotiate first, get the offer, then put in your 2 weeks. Tell your new employer that the time start is 2 weeks after the offer is final. Also, make sure to ask about the noncompete statements I have had it snuck in on me last minute and well, I’m paying for it now.
If you live in a 'right to work' State the non- compete will not affect you. You obviously can not take clients with you but you can go to work to a competitor.
5 years ago I recall getting everything in writing. Currently in today’s world, it seems they give you an offer verbally and if you accept then they send you the actual offer via DocUsign etc. Most companies have a PDF document, which outlines benefits and all other basic info and they can easily send that upon request.
Yes, this is a relatively (+/-5 years) new way of doing things. Reason being so a recruiter doesn't have to go back and get approval (which can sometimes mean 5+ people having to approve) in the system two or three times. If you need more information on benefits, definitely ask for that, but base, bonus, equity are usually relatively straight forward.
Your word is your bond. If you tell them you accept it verbally you are bond ethically to abide by it.
While I agree with that as a behavioral norm, when dealing with employment offers, a verbal agreement by either party would not stand up in court in a right-to-work state.
This is fairly standard. At my current company they will not send a written offer until they have a verbal acceptance to avoid candidate fallout during the new hire process. A verbal offer is not binding.
Standard/not unusual. I’d say ~50% of companies do this and the other half don’t. Makes for less paperwork.
Fairly standard stuff. We currently use this model to avoid revising offer letters that require approval.
This recently happened to me, and I was definitely taken aback. I prefer to see everything written down to prevent any backtracking but the recruiter explained he needed to get my verbal acceptance before anything official could be sent.
Very typical where I work. I prefer it this way too. It provides an opportunity for candid conversations around salary expectations and speeds the process. Offer letters typically go through at least a few approvals. I’d prefer to jump through that hoop only once.
Agreed
Pretty standard if you have 1 offer you’re evaluating. If you have multiple, I ask for a written offer so I can make an informed decision. Also depends on the size of the company and their hiring procedures.
That’s pretty standard from what I have experienced especially if they are open to negotiating.
Pretty standard, you agree the verbal offer or think about it.
If there is any negotiation to be made, it has to be made before the offer is generated.
The generated offer sent to you is an Employment contract.
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This is standard to extend verbal offer. However it is easier to do a counteroffer and get it. They don’t want to write down the offer only to change the amount and go through all the chain of approvals again.
this happened to me and it made me feel insecure in the validity of the offer and negotiated materials… i had “negotiated” wfh, but without it in writing when they finally drew up the paperwork, i didn’t have the risk tolerance to sign even after i had verbally accepted. I ended up telling my current job i had the offer and negotiating the same position there to keep wfh for sure. i probably wouldn’t have done that if i had had the writing early enough in the process to ask for a second draft including a wfh stipulation to keep me from overthinking going through with accepting.