Hey OP -- to reiterate what others have said mixed in with my own advice:

1) don't quit, let them get rid of you so you can claim unemployment.

2) your only job now to find a new job. This is where I differ from others: you're current job is over, there's no bouncing back from PiPs (very rare). I would do the least amount possible and expend all my effort on finding a new role.

3) ask your network or friends for referrals. It appears applying online is useless. It's not what you know; it's about who you know. It can feel like a herculean task, but it is doable.

4) document and record conversations. But I wouldn't spend too much effort on this either.

5) consider taking a sabbatical: i think an employer can't fire you if you're on leave: I read that in a WSJ article.
https://www.wsj.com/business/firing-someone-performance-improvement-plans-more-popular-the-pip-7cac7062?st=69JxGi&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

6) the PIP may have nothing to do with you. It's just an easier way, supposedly, for companies to get rid of people. It may not help with finding a new job, but at least you don't start doubting you're worth.

Any questions, lmk.

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Ummmm you probably should’ve put this under the comment of the original post instead of starting a new thread lol.

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Go on FMLA leave. That’s a way to get some time away and allow you to focus on finding a new role.

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Doctor notes for stress aren’t that hard to get. All things considered, do you really think a doctor won’t co-sign FMLA?

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Being terminated doesn't guarantee unemployment benefits if you were terminated for cause.

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