I feel so dumb for not knowing this answer, but what is the difference between Rule 14, Third party Complaint and Rule 20, permissive jointer? My client, defendant has an indemnity agreement with an entity that is not named in the suit and we want to bring them into the case.

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Why would you feel dumb for not knowing this answer? This isn’t a routine thing that you see every day.

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Both would be at play here. R20 lays out who may be joined by existing parties and who may join of their own accord; it also lays out their orientation within the action, whether as a plaintiff, co-defendant who is jointly and severally liable, or third-party defendant who indemnifies an existing party. Rule 14 lays out who can claim what against who. Rule 14 also allows a plaintiff to join a 3rd party defendant when the current defendant has counterclaims against the plaintiff.

Eh, that’s maybe a .4: .1 to do the work, .3 to stare at the email for 20 minutes looking for typos

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This sounds like a Rule 14 issue since your client is getting sued and you want a third party to reimburse you for any liability. But we need more details of the underlying suit.

Plaintiff hired my client (general contractor) to build a new house. My client had indemnity and joint venture agreement with his foreman so they were technically partners on the job. But the contract is just between my client and Plaintiff.

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