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Honestly, you sound like you don't know what you want and this may show during interviews. No one will give you what you don't think you deserve. Get a mentor or coach to break some of these mental barriers.
+1 on this sentiment. When I jumped as an SM to a different firm, I was able to speak to (1) my experience at level with sales, delivery, and practice growth, and (2) my POV on how I would expand that company’s growth through a go-to-market I would drive. It doesn’t sound like you’re able to communicate that, which would be a big red flag to interviewers.
If you want to be an SM, get promoted to SM at your current firm. They’ll coach you through the expectations and skills needed. If you’re struggling to get promoted at your current firm; you may struggle at the next level regardless of the firm you go to.
Recruiters are professional liars
Once you hit SM and especially MD you will have to dedicate significantly more time to work and it will take priority. I’m an SM now and it’s constant work and push to MD. I would gladly go back to M, it was the perfect balance of remuneration and WLB. Don’t compare yourself to others, assess what makes you happy. If that’s being able to work at M level and have priority for your family, then so be it.
I’m sorry to hear that, but if I were you I wouldn’t let that hold me back. I look at my mother who’s one of the sharpest people I’ve ever known and she’s had to limit her life to the kitchen.
I promised myself I’d do the right thing for me and I hope you find a way to do the same for you. You and I will live what, maybe another 1-2 decades with some youth and energy and then we start fading away?
Don’t make choices you think you’ll regret later. Life’s too short for compromise.
I feel very angry on myself for settling for roles that are low for my experience. But, I am also worried about taking on bigger roles for fear that I might lose my priority over family. Any words of advise or a different strategy for this female? Feeling quite low in-spite of getting a few offers.
MBA from one of the top 2 public universities in the nation . For being one of the top public universities, the career counseling was non-existent …especially for the experienced folks.
And, I had to step down when I joined consulting. Biggest mistake that I did - due to a lack of knowledge about consulting growth track. I was told that the firm hires only at Manager level. All BS, because later on, I learnt that was not true. They did hire experienced Sr.Mgrs.None of them came with a book of business.
It’s either the drag of the public sec experience or lack of knowledge about the various career growth paths, (having been in public sector for a long time) or the lack of support from family/educational institution or my own timidness to boldly take on bigger and bolder roles or my networking capability or my lack of confidence in up selling my skills - something seems to be blocking growth.
Get an executive coach, it changed my life. DM if you need a contact
Will do. Thank you
Are you enjoying your work in consulting?
If you find enjoyment for the same work, and more leadership experience, better title/pay in industry, will you make the leap?
You don’t have to stay in consulting to get better pay to compare to your peers. At the same time, you don’t know what they sacrificed to get to the SM/PMD track.
With your background, you might be able to punch more in industry. It all depends on how you sell yourself. I agree with a few comments above: you’ve to believe it and commit to it.
Yup. Great questions to ask myself. Thank you.
Oddly enough, I question myself in the opposite. Not sure if I am underselling my abilities.
No where near 20. Wel that’s debatable. 16 with military YOE included but civilian it’s about 8.
LinkedIn Zip Recruiter recommends director, VP, SM roles and I’m over here like, crap, I don’t even think I’d qualify as a Manager for some positions. Interviewed for roles offering $200k+ a year and they sound amazing, but when speaking to interviews, it’s like my actual work experience doesn’t align.
Not saying I get your situation, but I feel the frustration in a way.
Already done ✅. Largest question. Is why the F am I still here lol
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So you’ve already been at Manager level for four years? Point that out, and say you’d expect a more senior level role to reflect that experience
Thanks for that insight. That makes sense. Commitment to picking only a role that I want to play by working on my confidence.
Just go to industry.
This person may be an Executive MBA.
What I am hearing is that you’ve been a manager for four years and have not been promoted and you have issues with the workload expectations for SM / MD roles, is that right?
I wouldn’t hire you as an SM or MD either.
I get what you’re saying about females getting the short stick as primary care giver. The women partners I know well are either unmarried / no kids, have a SAHD / SAHM as their partner, or a partner in a role where the time demands work, eg teacher. I wouldn’t be able to do what I do as an SM if my wife wasn’t a SAHM.
Will keep this as a reminder to never apply for EY.😂