I need some advice on negotiating payout structure. I work for a pretty large firm in that we have 7 advisors and manage around $500M AUM. I’m just getting started transitioning from a primary licensed staff role to commission-only FA. Payout for me would be 40%. Is this normal? Should this be negotiated? Can it change as I get more business. Also side note I just brought in my first whale and I’m super excited about it!

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Congrats on the Whale! - I think it depends on what your receiving for the 60% your giving up. At EJ, 40% is standard, plus Office Rent, Full time assistant, profitability bonuses, LP opportunity, 5 star vacations , Profit sharing contribution typically in the 4-5% range, and full back office support as well as advertising and a well known brand. Also, guaranteed salary for the 1st few yrs. - On the other hand, full independence could net you 90+%.

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Well Said Overall EWM1! 👍🙂

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Far more lucrative as an independent. Reach out find out if we are interested in you. It could be good for both 603 7071355 Eastern Tennessee.

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The more critical piece of information is how much of that AUM is yours?

Starting at $0 you need a base. I started at $0 & drained my Roth to keep us alive. "Hello millionaire, I have 1 month of experience, please trust me with your money."
It takes $10mm minimum on a fee based schedule not to live on plasma donations and Ramen noodles.

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Do you have a grid? What does that look like? If you don’t know, you should ask.
A $500m team might not have that much pull with RJ about grid increases or payout negotiations. 40% seems very fair for someone with basically no AUM.

Assuming by your profile you are at Raymond James? Are you at RJI vs RJA? Depending on which one will help determine what to ask for.

I’m in an RIA that was RJFS and recently transitioned to RJA, mind you I’m an employee. I would gladly take 40%, but as a new FA I would want to ensure my AUM and cash balance could float me long enough to build AUM large enough to create a comfortable or livable income. Good luck and go get ‘em!

No kidding the first few years in the business you live on air. I think I made like $30 to $40k. 40% grid is good for a new advisor. Perhaps they are applying your team’s AUM grid rate to you. I started solo and if I were to start over I would be part of the team. I would have accelerated more quickly. Are you in the AMP program? They have a base pay as you grow.

Out if interest, how big was the whale?

I think 40% is quite generous, and it probably because you are part of a team. For comparison, the grid at my firm is in the low 30s for FAs that’s starting out and has very low production. Yeah, curious about the size of the whale too!

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