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Hello dear peers,
Someone please guide me about the hierarchy at DXC.
4.1 professional - 1
4.2 professional - 2
5 Senior Professional / Associate Manager
Where does manager lie in this hierarchy .
Is it above level 5 and is it called level 6.
And what is the salary range for Manager position.
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I commute 1.5 hrs each way to work, 5 days a week. While the commute sucks, and it takes away a lot of my “free time,” I chose to do it because I like the firm I work for. The environment is as healthy as you can expect out of a law firm.
So it depends on what you value and what your priorities and home needs are. I do not have a family/spouse so I am ok with using my “free time” to drive to a job, however, it is exhausting and prevents me from doing things such as working out. If you have a family/spouse/pets, this may be harder for you. You just have to decide if the benefits are worth the drawbacks.
Yes, I outsource all that as I don’t have time.
45 minutes each way is not bad. If you can make it work, I’d take the job.
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Any way you could move closer?
Unfortunately no trains or any public transport around here. If I could be useful during that time I think it’d be a much easier decision!
I hated it when I had a long commute to work. You lose the equivalent of a whole day’s working hours a week. But if you’re convinced it is worth it for your career and salary progression then go for it, but then see if you can get a bit of flexibility after you’ve been there long enough to feel you can ask.
1.5 Hour commute is not bad at all. I accepted a position that is a 2 hour commute (one way) 2-3d/week for better salary and benefits. I went from small ID firm to AmLaw 100 firm. If its going to provide you with a better career trajectory toughen out the commute.
Yeah… I get work done on the bus so not awful.
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I'm toying with the idea of going to a firm that would be at least a 2.5 hour round trip commute if I only had to go in once a week. I very much treasure my free time and commuting is purely a waste of time imo. I'd hate to put myself in a position where I'm miserable purely because of a commute and finding myself wanting to leave again.
That’s my issue as well. I understand why this position has to be partly in person, but not every day. I also love my free time, but at my current remote position I also find myself not having a lot of free time unless I put off working until late a night for the gym or whatever else I would be doing.
Rising Star
I have found that a “long” commute (which I consider as anywhere from 30 minutes each way and up) with mandatory in person to be difficult to manage with kids and their schedules unless we outsourced a lot. I ended up missing school events, or always having to leave the office early to get to them (and the stigma attached whether they said it would or not in the interview). My longest was 90 minutes one way and I’ll never do that again but I’ve had 45 minutes each way and still found that to be difficult to manage everything.
For me, the flexibility I have in my current, 3 in/2 wfh hybrid role is invaluable. My husband and I have more flexibility to handle when kids get sick, school is closed for random days, there’s an open house or some other school event, the dog needs to go to the vet, etc. I have a super short commute, about 15 minutes door to door when I go into the office so I love it.
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Each stage has its own challenges when it comes to kiddos. The long commutes really cut into the time I had to spend with my kids when they were babies since I wasn’t home for a lot of their “wake” time. We basically got home, fed them, and did the bedtime routine. Then fed ourselves and did the minimum housework and prep for the next day. Rinse and repeat. It was exhausting, not to mention you throw some weather-related commute delays or an accident in there and it all got more complicated.
We kept both our kids awake later in the evenings compared to most of my friends, but that wasn’t always possible and it still felt like I rarely saw them at night during the week (especially if I had to leave earlier in the morning for something and didn’t see much of them in the am). Having the hybrid schedule I have now, I’d never go back to a fully in-person gig with a longer commute, but plenty of people make it work. We did it and I think we made the best of it and plenty of other people did it before hybrid was a more prevalent option; I just wouldn’t want to go back.
I commute and you will never get that time back. My drive to work is actually more stressful than my biglaw career. Double it in the winter if you’re in a colder state. Good luck with your decision.
Too bad you can’t do it on the train. I have a 45 minute train ride each way and it’s 45 mins of work that counts toward my day
Yes unfortunately I’d be driving for the whole time. I’ve been trying to justify it as getting and audible subscription and listening to books but that’s still so painful to lose that time.
If the commute is 45 mins each way and it’s a great firm, I say definitely take it! I hope you meet wonderful people! Too bad it isn’t a train but I would just avoid rush hour if possible. Seems like common sense but worth mentioning. Good luck!
If it works for your lifestyle, sure (e.g., no one needs you at certain times like young kids, you don't actually mind driving long distances or for long periods of time, etc.). But if not, you'll end up in the same place eventually--wanting to leave and find something else.
This is a good thought, thank you! I wouldn’t be good to immediately want to leave this job after a very short stint at my current job either.
See if your boss is flexible to you coming into the office early 7am and leaving early 3/4pm or coming in late/leaving late 9am and 7pm. I have a similar commute, but I don’t get into the office until 9/9:30 and it takes about 15 minutes off my commute.
Coming in at 9-9:30 is the expected time so anything later would be around 10-10:30. Leaving at 6 would definitely make this only about an hour though which could be amazing. I’ll ask about flexibility in time at the office, thank you!
Depends on your personal situation. Think with kids that would be tough. Commuting is terrible. You could always make a plan to move closer if it’s somewhere you want to be and the job sounds like it could be worth it.
Can you not work remote part of the week at the new job?
I’m a third year, almost fourth.
This is in-house at a large manufacturer and everyone there is in person, including the legal team. I’ve met the entire team and I get along with everyone really well, and I actually enjoy having some in person aspect—I find myself pretty alone and without significant mentorship in my current role (everyone is remote), and I also like being able to walk around and talk to people about things I’m working on.
The culture also seems great, they have great benefits, the parental leave is amazing (20weeks paid), vacation is plenty, and good 401k match. Also no billing, which I could never get used to in my firm job and absolutely despise (and still have to deal with in my job).
Finally, this would also be a good international name on my resume for someone who went to a lower ranked, local school.
The one thing that gives me pause is that you have to go in 5 days a week. I have about an hour commute both ways and with traffic that sometimes ends up being 2 and a half hours total. My job allows me to be hybrid 3 days in and 2 days out though which makes it much easier.
With that said if your commute is 45 minutes each way with traffic than that’s not bad at all honestly:
Thank you for the advice!!
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Is that 45 min each way during rush hour or during a time when it rains, etc.? Bc if the 45 min starts to grow, the commute is going to start wearing on you. Other than the commute it sounds like
A good move, might be worth the commute.
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I used to go from NH into boston. It was pretty brutal sometimes (45 min up to 2 hours depending on weather and travel times). I was on the bus so I could get work done, but it was a real life suck. Just plan your route carefully and adjust on the fly.
If you are used to being fully remote, the commute is going to suck 8283747382x more than it would have pre-COVID.
Try to think about the things you’d lose by going in-person and think about how you’d feel about that. What would it take for you to make up for those things?