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Hi all, recently in touch by Spotify recruiter for a Sec Engineer position for remote EU and was told that range was 60-80 out of base salary and equity. Had 2 years of security experience out of my 4 years. Was also told that there is no bonus scheme or no sign in bonus 😕 Not sure how I feel about this tbh.
What do you think?
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Wanted to highlight Prudential Financial’s hiring practices. They rescinded my offer once I attempted to negotiate the salary. The official reason given was that I didn’t “sound excited enough”.
They then admittedly gave the offer to someone who was less qualified. There were other red flags throughout the job offer process that the HR team should overall be ashamed of.
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You have 4 more years to go. We don’t know what will happen in that. Tbh, I am not even thinking that far, my concern now is such a low salaries at this time and how to negotiate that.
It can give you a significant impact (depending on what portion of your monthly salary it represents) I had invested in to getting an apartment and expenses around that. Luckily his approach worked out with all the rental expenses going up. Consider inflation rates before just stashing it to a bank account.
And I would love to hear if employers are interested in renegotiating.
There are employers that renegotiate, although I would say majority doesn’t. And it makes sense as it would be unfair with the ones without 30% ruling if the gross salary was the same. The friend who managed to renegotiate was the only large enterprise sales rep of his company and responsible for a big chunk of the European revenue, so he had leverage. But even colleagues that were Director level in Pharma hadn’t managed to renegotiate.
On the length, as someone above mentioned, you shouldn’t think that much far, as when I joined Netherlands I got 8 years and then they cut for 5 years without me being able to do anything 🤡
I agree with the recommendation above on planning properly and buying a house, it can help on moving down the housing costs. But count those years as an added benefit instead of your real revenue and try to bring up as much as you can your starting salary. Other strategy is to do some job hopping so by the end of the 5 year you have a high salary and feel less the impact; I know several people that even aí the promotions by the end of the 30% ruling period basically started earning net exactly the same as when they started in the NL, it’s painful…