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My firm closes, but attorneys generally keep working between making side dishes.
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These usually only apply only to staff. Attorneys work when there is work tha needs to be done by a certain deadline regardless of office closure policies.
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Yes. All of the firms I’ve ever worked at sent out email reminders and let staff know that they can leave as long as they checked in with the attorneys to see if they needed anything.
Mine closed at 2 the Wednesday before Thanksgiving most years and gave us Wednesday-Friday off last year. Well officially at least; I think I billed 34 hours those three days.
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Yes, my firm does this.
Yes. Current BL and prior BL firms both do.
We close at 3pm the day before but I notice that people tend to keep working until around 5pm. It’s just like any other day. Depends on your work load.
My BL firm used to, but hasn’t really during the pandemic. The partner of my group usually sends an email out and tells people to get offline (attorneys/staff) unless they absolutely have to work, but this usually isn’t applicable to me as the firm makes me still work/be online.
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I have never heard of somebody working on Thanksgiving but other people have different experiences, I suppose. When I first started, I set some pretty hard boundaries which meant that I didn't work holidays and my team has always respected that
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Yup. Standard that staff gets told they can leave 2 hours early before most holidays/long weekends etc. May not apply to higher level staff like office manager, but certainly secretaries. Mailroom etc may keep a skeleton crew.
That’s what my mid firm did! Thank you for the insight!
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Why do you need this, just leave early, Biglaw doesn't have real hours for attorneys
Correct, I am staff management. I just want to know what the norms are for staff/office services in large firms for conversations with the FMP
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The early office closures are really for staff. Attorneys work as needed, so they may take the whole day off and they may take none of the day off.
As a general rule: Q4 ain’t fun to be a transactional lawyer.
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So, for staff, yeah. Maybe there are exceptions to the early office closures on the staff level. e.g., I imagine the life of firm finance sucks at the end of the year.