Monday to Friday, 12 hours daily on work (meetings, analysis, slides, research..), exclude meals. Personally feel that this is unsustainable as an average.

What do yall think?

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Seems like what I have been doing for 6 years.

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LOL SAME

12 hours would be a godsend in our practice. We’re at 16, with a few all nighters since COVID. And they keep laying off people staffed on out engagements that we can’t back fill. Hopefully that stops since our CEO said Friday it’s no longer necessary, although we laid off right up until that announcement.

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Also @All, I know across the industry 60-80 hours is "okay". Anyone hates it being okay like me? I really don't understand why no firm has been the first mover to see if wlb can reap results even in professional service.

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At least for my group, I’m probably in the top 10% and average about 55 hours a week.

OP, hopefully you’re getting paid. I have about 10 YOE and make 135k. My hours have steadily gone up over the years and frankly it’s not worth it. My spouse works fewer hours and makes about 100k more.

I’m looking to leave consulting. I think a lot of what we do is pointless and doesn’t add a lot of value.

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It is definitely not sustainable— to me. Some people can do it and will thrive. For others, it will be a drain. So ultimately it depend on you and how you feel at the end of the day, week, month, year what have you. Also look to see other areas of your life— are they where you want to be? Do you have time to dedicate to them—-and if you wanted the time to begin with.

For me, I don’t get in the game with everyone else. If they all want to play hunger games, and work super long hours, and be catty to one another. That is them and their own lives. For me, life is to be lived. I’m only here one time and for an indefinite amount of time— and I choose to enjoy it as much as I can and when I can. Therefore, for me, for as long as I can and when I can —I will force work life balance—knowing the trade offs but valuing the benefits more than fearing the trade offs.

Good luck!

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You ma soulmate!! Thanks for letting me know that someone has exercised the option to live their life. I would also say, sometimes when people do it, i get pressured a little and feel bad that I'm not doing it. I need to reset my mind.. Thank you!

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Yes working 12 hour days (or more) is unsustainable if you want to live a life outside of work. Even more hours is not only unsustainable but borderline unhealthy.

I made the shift to internal consulting and now work about 8-10 hours a day and my life is infinitely better and more enjoyable. Prior to this, I was convinced the 14-18 hour days in consulting were needed to be on a good career path but it’s laughable how naive that was.

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SM1, D1 - okay you've been doing it but you think it's sustainable? You think talent attrition accompanying is is worth it? You think the health tradeoff is worth it? What's your opinion? Not asking for whether you've done it or not, asking for what you truly feel about it

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Same with you my friend. At the end of the day what we do at work in our 20s&30s won’t be on our tombstones or grow old with us. I say do what you feel is right for you not what others tell you is right for you.

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Ill defined project scope
Scoop creep
Unskilled workers
Covid
Not hiring
In house fighting
Clueless partners/MDs

All factors of my 12-16hr days but I do set boundaries on Fridays

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It’s so systematic that at times I think not. Partners listen but money is a hella of a drug

It’s not sustainable for the vast majority of ‘normal’ people out there, who eventually want a social life, a spouse, children, time to enjoy their family/friends/hobbies. It is sustainable for children-less couples, couples who accept the job demands, and single people who ignore life/work balance and probably have fairly empty lives. I was on a project with a partner that never seemed to connect with their sig. other, a SM whose spouse seemed to work as hard and a manager who accepted that speaking to their sig other would only occur for about 30 min during the week and sometimes on the weekend. I was the single one, without many personal responsibilities, but I found it extremely draining. TLDR: it is not sustainable

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Nope. I calculated my hourly rate and determined I was worth more and left.

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Depends how much you’re getting paid imo

Hmm. Depends on what you value. And if money is what you value then depends on how much you're paid!

I don’t think MC job description says it would be sustainable. People who cannot sustain get out anyway...and, there is enough talent globally to take up the open roles. So, I don’t see any company to change their practices..

Agree with most of what you said, except you don’t really need rockstars to excel in consulting, including MBB. Also, everyone is replaceable (including Partners!) in all companies, except maybe those who are working on cutting edge R&D..

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