Partner told me that things are slow across the board and it’s not a bad idea to start looking around. I have received only good feedback and ask around for work but there isn’t a lot. Do you think this is an honest advice or some sort of mind game?

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It sounds like they’re warning you that layoffs are imminent and giving you a head start, maybe because they like you (you mention positive reviews). If you’re asking for work and there just isn’t any, I don’t think they’re trying to scare you into working harder or something like that.

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I definitely don’t think this is a mind game. I would start looking.

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This is not a mind game. They like you and are trying to take care of you. Speaking as an equity partner, layoffs are not the first step we want to take, and certainly not of associates we like. That said, we can’t make the industry overall generate work if there are market forces pausing or stopping demand. So if it’s at the point where they foresee layoffs, listen to them.

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They’re doing you a favor. Accept it with gratitude.

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To add to this - always good to be ahead of the market on these things.

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start looking

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Does it matter? Start looking.

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This - one way or another, you’ve got to start looking

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I had a partner who told me to “keep my relationships with other firms” and I was laid off with another associate one month later. I think they are trying to warn you.

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This. I was laid off three months ago after work dried up and the firm restructured.

Be grateful. If they will be a reference for you, even better.

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Start looking.

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If it’s slow could they give you a referral to a peer firm? The partner seems to care about you somewhat and your work quality should speak for itself. This is not a mind game. If it were that, then the partner could have said ‘some people in our group’ are lagging behind the rest of the firm or ‘aren’t meeting expectations’

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Partners don’t do mind games about things like this, generally. You almost certainly are getting a heads up that layoffs may be coming and you could be on the chopping block.

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No he is giving you a clue, so get prepared. Firm up your cv, use a recruiter start the process. You are lucky-I was let go last week-no notice, just called in, given the ax, and I was walked out. I'm over it now. But you need to act on this. Who knows, you might be in a better place. Good luck.

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You’ve seen with your own eyes that there isn’t enough work. Like others said, they are giving you a head start.

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Depends on your relationship with them and under what context they told you

I’m so sorry, sounds like partner wants to help you and perhaps give you a leg up on others facing layoffs. Perhaps connect with a recruiter and have them put some blind inquiries out for you.

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