Recruiter called post on-site asking for numbers, but offer has not been made yet. Should you give a very high number or just be conservative? And negotiate header once offer is made.

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

I like to throw out an outrageous number, and say something like “…but that’s total comp. I’d like to hear an offer including all your benefit details. And then, when it comes to salary - I’m flexible.”

like

This tends to work well because most folks (including HR) don’t know how to calculate total comp on the spot - they feel confused by your big number and the math of total comp. They won’t flat out reject you - instead (as is true in most negotiations), when you over shoot someone’s top number, they instantly reveal their top number and say they can follow up with total comp details. Now, you have the advantage of knowing their top salary number and you get to make the next move in negotiations.

Not always, but usually this is how it goes.

like

No discussion regarding salary was ever had prior to the on-site?

like

Related Posts

Does anyone know why Australian salaries are significantly lower than our US counterparts?

like

Can I share my performance rating screenshot to the HR??
HR is asking for CTC approval.

like

My colleagues with the same designation earn more than me. How should I ask salary Hike to manager without bringing colleagues' salary owing to Salary confidentiality?

likehelpful

For a Data Engineer with 5-6 YoE working on Azure Cloud Infrastructure (ADF, ADLS, Synapse), Databricks and Python. What should be the ideal salary?

like

Let's talk salary.

I'm up for a raise soon and I'm at 43,000 a year. Anyone have any advice on what I should ask for?

like

currently tossing up between staying at a global company (who is in the process of some positive changes) with an amazing manager who supports my career and flexible working … however comes with the inherit issues that come with a long standing global company

compared with a role at a smaller mga, higher salary (around 30%) more , more visibility career wise and some great employee benefits , management seem to be supportive and low staff turnover

which would you choose here

like

Bonus for EY S&O?

likefunny

I’m currently an SA2 but was offering a 6 month rotation working on product strategy for the firm with a promotion to Manager. Recruiter explained that It’d be at the same base pay with the potential of a raise in June, would you take just a title bump?

like
like

Amazon recruiter reached out and wants to know my general compensation expectations before first interview. Very little info available on role but seeing $150k-$250k total compensation reported. Is this too wide of a range to give them?

like

Hello All, needed some advise, I have offer from freshworks of 50 L/A and other offer from 314e startup company with 48L/A but they are giving after 2 years US visa processing they will start, should i consider on the second offer?

like

When does Accenture Capability pay Variable pay? If I join in May, when will I get the variable?

like

What's the fixed package of a Level 8 Associate Project Manager at Accenture technology at an experience of about 12.5 years?

like

Any feedback about Merkle Dentsu as a company and their work culture, salary, other benefits?

like

Hi All, Any Managers at EY Parthenon in London office who can share any insights into the salary for Managers/ Directors? MBA and 5+ years of experience? Thanks in advance!

like

I am at salary negotiation phase with accenture hiring team. Somebody give me pro tips to fetch more CTC.

like

KPMG India Hello Sharks,
What is the package range being offered to SAP MM consultants having around 5 years of Exp..Any leads will be highly appreciated..KPMG India KPMG Cognizant PwC EY

like

I have 2 offer 1 from epam anywhere and other is from deloitte, which is better to join. Epam offering 17 fixed and Deloitte offering 15.75 fixed ( 2.5lakh variable). I am confused which one I should join

like

Hi,
I have got offers from Sabre travel technology and LG soft India, both are offering almost same package.
Please suggest the best one to join?
YOE: 2.8 years
Techs: Software development, .Net, C#

like

Does AFS offer annual salary adjustment? Bonuses? MSA?

like

More Posts

How do you for sure if big 4 is not for you?

likehelpful

Looking to move to a new agency after 3 years, senior seo manager, any tips on good boutique marketing agencies to look into or recruiter hookups?

like

I want to take this moment to wish everyone a happy new year. Still on holiday vacation.

like

Will need to migrate to office 365 soon. What’s the difference for excel from the 2013 version?

likehelpful

Looking for ETL testing role. Can join in one month. Preferred location is pune. Total exp - 7.3 yrs Skills- Informatica, SQL, Unix Any referrals please suggest.

like

Supply chain issues are still a problem. And Fisher and VWR (Avantor) are as greedy as ever. I’m considering looking into starting or investing into a U.S. manufacturing based lab supply company. Thoughts? Anyone work for these companies that can discuss logistics and potential challenges?

like
like

AT&T Does AT&T provide permanent WFH or any option for WFH to their employees?

Thanks in advanceAT&T

like

My company got bought out but kept most of the sales team on. Everything was pretty much the same for the first few months, but recently I've been seeing a shift in my responsibilities-doing customer service tasks and lots of little extras. How do I factor this in when asking for a raise in my review?

like

I’m seeing most of the commission only jobs are mainly cold call sales. Is that the industry norm? I’ve only done inside sales salary + commission.

like

I know there are multiple posts about this but I still can’t think of the right way to play United Wholesale Mortgages. Too nervous to sell covered calls with the ex div date and high OI for calls in March. Anyone considered averaging down?

like

The worst place to work as RN is HCA Largo Hospital, FL

like

This group is dead - Partners definitely are boring

like

Hello all,
My workday id is not working. As there is no password reset option on the workday portal i don't know what to do. Any suggestions?

Ritz or JW in Cancun?

like

How to become program manager

like
like

AITA? If my SO of 1 year wants to get a dog, do I get an opinion? We don’t live together

Folks who are interested in "Product Analyst" role can comment down, I'll reach out to them.
Company- Nushop
Location- Bangalore (your choice to wfh or wfo)
Experience - 1+ years

helpful

Hii everyone,

I have graduated in Mechanical engineering in Nov 2019. I have worked as Quality supervisor in rubber manufacturing company for few months. Pandemic crises hit them to shut down company. Since i have been in international BPO as Pre Auth analyst for 19 months. Finding some new job to start my career.
I am certified in Solidworks essential products developing .
Please prefer some great ideas and referrals if possible.

like

Additional Posts in Compensation in Consulting

Interviewed for Deloitte S&A Tech Strategy SC and got a verbal offer for Consultant instead. I negotiated the offer to 120K salary and 10K signing bonus. I’m a boomerang with 4 years ERP consulting but this past year I’ve been doing DEI Consulting. Spoke with former colleagues who rejoined Deloitte and got a much higher offer for SC. How do I go back to the recruiter to negotiate further? I suggested that I’d probably sign but need time to think. Now I’d like to go back and request 140k salary.

like
like

DC - AFS, Senior Analyst making 88K salary with a 2K sign on bonus I had to negotiate is this a good deal?

like

I think it’d be helpful if those of us who have exited into Bay Area tech start a comp thread so others can benchmark.

2 yrs post-MBA
BizOps manager
175 base + 225 RSUs (publicly traded, 4 yr vest)

likehelpful

When talking about salary, do you usually say your base or TC?

$210k TC in Bay Area (Consulting) or new offer: $220k TC in Austin (FAANG)?

like

Working with headhunters that specialize in consulting outplacement: how do THEIR incentives work?

Like, I assume that they are paid based on the level of the candidate that they bring in, but how are their incentives ALIGNED? If you as the candidate get a higher comp package, do they get a higher placement fee? Or is it in their best interest to keep your comp within (i.e., below) a certain range?

like

Bonus for EY S&O?

likefunny

I’m currently an SA2 but was offering a 6 month rotation working on product strategy for the firm with a promotion to Manager. Recruiter explained that It’d be at the same base pay with the potential of a raise in June, would you take just a title bump?

like
like

What are the best industries for talented strategy/business developers? Looking for industry exit opportunities from retail banking as I find the entire industry too boring.

like

Amazon recruiter reached out and wants to know my general compensation expectations before first interview. Very little info available on role but seeing $150k-$250k total compensation reported. Is this too wide of a range to give them?

like

What’s the normal bump from entry level consultant to next step up? Ibm seems to be from 73 —> 90

Curious what other firms offer

like

What does an Enablement Lead Analyst make at BCG?

like

Need help deciding if this offer is worth moving for. Received an offer from Booz Allen Hamilton for an Associate level Sr. Systems Engineer in Los Angeles for $135k base. I countered $150k and a $15k singing bonus and asked if I could be brought on as a lead associate since I've been a lead/manager for a while in my current company.

Current company TC: $125k in Utah.
YOE: 7 with M.S. and MBA

Is the switching cost/risk and higher COL worth it?

like

Recommendations for tax filing in Chicago downtown?

like

I currently make a TC of 210k in Midwest region working in cloud architecture consulting. I looking to find my next role outside of consulting while keeping or increasing my TC. Has anyone been in similar situation and what type of roles and companies should I apply? I’m not looking to move to a high cost of living area

like

Anyone at CVS Health and know when annual equity is paid out?

like

In final stage interview for Product Manager position at Early Stage VC startup. The company convo is coming up soon and I am looking at asking 140K base, 20K sign on, and 40K equity. Is this reasonable am I selling myself short (or too high), I’m coming from consulting.

like
like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal