Senior Director… that’s a soft ceiling right? It’s giving “we want you to feel recognized.” Thoughts?

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I think once revenues started shrinking agencies got in the habit of adding in-between titles with in-between pay. Latest I’ve heard over the past year or so is “Business Director”, which I think lies between Group Account Director and VP, which used to be adjacent? Or it’s kind if the same as Group Account Director? It’s all so muddy.

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VP ends up the same. Doesn't feel "real" until SVP or even EVP because so many agencies are so top heavy.

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There is a hard ceiling which you will never reach unless you’re white

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I’m a white male and I feel the same lol

They can also bill for your hours at a higher rate with “senior” in there …

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Depends on the agency you’re at; levels are all over the place these days.

They don’t want you to bounce even though it’s burning down around you, but they don’t want to pay you as an EGD either. It’s a made-up thing and they still need less MDs and ECDs.

THIS. This is how I felt about the title. Like they made up this entirely new role because they didn’t want to reshuffle seats above. And also pay.

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You could say that about every level except c-suite

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