Senior I here, I guess Senior II in October. EY will start the GC process soon. I am worried they file it for a Senior Position, and not for a Manager position. If the process took, let's say 2-3 years, I think it's reasonable to ask them to file directly as a Manager. Have you faced this situation before? How should I express my concerns? Should I talk to the lawyers, partners, HR, EM...? Any advice or experiences?

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They will most probably start for manager position. PWD, PERM, I140 can easily take 2+ years.

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Do job responsibilities b/w manager and senior 1 differ by > 50%? If yes then how will you provide an experience letter for the new 50% manager responsibilities? Remember you can't claim your work ex as a "manager" for a Manager PERM position while you gained the experience in US. Also why do you want it to be filed as Manager vs Senior 1?

Sorry I'm not from your firm so just curious to understand the difference

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They default it to be manager. I think you need to persuade them if you want to file Senior. Don’t worry about it

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Some want to start it early. My friend started the process as Senior 1 and she could only file Senior. The labor market test failed in the end. EY has a lot of failed labor market tests especially for Seniors.

They start it as manager usually. And most importantly your I've learnt that your EY title doesn't have much correlation with the job description on the perm applications.

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Why do you care that much? In PwC the difference is EB2 vs EB3, but EB3 seems to be (much) faster than EB3 right now for Chinese and Indians, and there’s no difference for ROW

Thank you! Same for you🙏

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They filed mine as Manager position in 2019 for PWD and priority date for PERM is Nov 2020 (still waiting for DOL approval). If I dont get promoted this year - 2021 to Manager, I am not sure how that will affect the i-140 & i-485 processing. For those who know, when should I be in that Manager title during GC processing?

I see, thanks for letting me know... I already raised the issue to people I work with that my promo affects my visa

They filed for senior position for mine and my PERM was just approved. Fortunately my priority date is current, and they are filing I-140 and I-485 concurrently. I will also be a Senior II in Oct FYI

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