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Trying to flick to NZ business class for my honey moon. We’ve got tons of AMEX and Chase points, but not enough to go business outright. Any tips on how to pull this off? Buy then upgrade? Options?

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You can use 55-60k Alaska Air miles to fly one-way business class to NZ on Cathay Pacific. If you don’t fly Alaska regularly, you can transfer Marriott Bonvoy points to Alaska’s loyalty program or open up credit cards with Alaska or Marriott for the signup bonuses. I recently did this for biz class to NZ, but be warned finding actual Cathay award space is not straightforward and takes a lot of time — combo of searching for award flights on British Airways site and then calling Alaska repeatedly to find flights.

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Check out Juicy Miles. Totally worth buying a subscription for a month, you may find some unexpected availability on Chase / Amex transfer partners you may not have considered

How much are tons of points?

For standard awards, 400k miles should be enough for two round trip business class tickets. If you’re not wedded to flying NZ, check other airlines too (AA, Qantas, via Asia)

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It’s possible to sometimes find Air NZ business class via United miles. You can transfer Chase points to UA

It’s close to impossible to find that award. They are very stingy with releasing space. Although something cropped up last week I believe

All super helpful, thanks folks! Will post later with what we do.

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