What would you consider reasonable pay for a 2019 grad at a boutique (less than 20 attorneys) who runs, and brings in, their own cases with success. But also helps out on other matters as needed from partners. My billable hour requirement is less than 1,500. The firm also has great benefits - virtually no premium for health care even with family and full tuition reimbursement.

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Do the math: 1500 x rate (say 400) x 1/3 = 200000

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This is the correct answer. What’s reasonable depends on the economics.

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My billable rate is mid 400s

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I would hope you are making at least 225k

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Those great benys will cut into salary. There’s a cost to those and they gotta be paid for. Everyone loves to cite the 1/3 formula. It’s a decent baseline but defo not the rule. Firm economics and business model always win.

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