A frustrated colleague asked for help with a difficult prosecution. I agreed to help. I just reviewed up the case and the examiner is combining NINE references. I think that’s a record for me. What’s your record for most number of references combined?

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Sweet Jesus. That would be one amazing ordinarily skilled artisan.

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I think 12. See if you can attack the prima facia basis of the Examiner.

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Whoa. I had 6 the other day and thought that was bad.

I recently had one with 9, and the client gave me instructions staring simply "yes respond" less than a week before the three month date. I wasn't allowed an EOT.

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