When you've been with an employer for a few years, and they offer a promotion, is it safe to assume you'll get a raise? After my promotion, I'll have more responsibilities and a better title, but there's been zero discussion about a salary increase. Do I accept first, then negotiate? Or bring it up before accepting? I don't want to lose the opportunity, but I also don't want to do more work for the same pay.

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Never assume a jump in salary, but don’t discount the power of a higher title either. The new level may come with little or no raise now, but it could lead to a higher bonus or raise later, in addition to even higher promotions that you wouldn’t get to without this promotion first. If they say that a raise won’t necessarily come with the better title, I’d do two things. First, I’d look at what the career path looks like within the company and how this promotion fits into the overall puzzle. Does it lead to you becoming a manager or a director in a few years? Those salaries will more than make up for a bit of extra grunt work now. Second, if a promotional raise is not in the plans, could they at least think of giving you a bit of a higher raise than usual following the end year performance review? That may at least make the extra work worth it in the meantime. One thing that I wouldn’t do though is rejecting the promotion outright or looking for another job without fully understanding the nature of the promotion, its future potential, as well as how much money they’re willing to give you even if they can’t give you a huge bump in salary. Companies are being very conservative with their budgets right now due to the economy, so they can’t be pushed too far right now either.

like

That's the assumption, but you should always clarify. You lose all negotiating power the second you accept. You've got to figure out what the salary for the new position looks like before deciding whether it's something you want to pursue.

like

You need to negotiate that

like

I would definitely take it with the condition that you negotiate the raise. I find that I tend to get a pretty crappy raise if I just accept the promotion and don't talk about the money. Often if you don't have a frank conversation about the finances, you'll end up with a bunch more work for very little benefit.

When the offer is presented to you I would ask then about compensation. Usually there should be a bump otherwise why bother getting promoted lol

That’s a fair assumption but always worth double checking. It isn’t always guarenteee

Related Posts

What’s your hourly rate for web development and where are you located? If you’re able to share, I’d really appreciate it. My agency is trying to figure out how to strike a balance in quoting website projects. We’re based in New Orleans and are not looking to gather comp set data. We just need some validation.

like

Hey Fishes,
Been working at D India as a Manager (Not USI) for past few months.
Ask me anything as there are very few reviews available online.
To clear few misconceptions
1. Global projects are available here
2. They've started mentioning Bonus, Gratuity amount etc in offer letter
3. Work life balance depends on Project and managers you work with
4. Inside opportunities if you're the creamy layer
5. PF amount in offer letter is the total deduction and not just company's contri

Other can add

like

What is the typical comp range for managers / senior managers in a MCOL city?

like

Thoughts?
I’ve been working at my current company for 11 years, for the past year I have been waiting for a promised promotion. I have been fully remote for 7 years pretty much good work life. Busy. In April they said I have the job still waiting. I am a project accountant III to a finance business manager.Could be long nights &stress. Still unknown pay maybe 20k increase.. Last week I was offered a govt job at NGA (Budget analyst) 40k increase not guaranteed remote. 45 min drive +retirement

like

Salary - What is the salary of Operations Managers in Hyderabad

What is the avg salary of big data engineer in Sun Life ?

What is the salary band for a Delivery Lead position. What is the max I can expect??

Recently left the Big4 without a job lined up. I’m hearing all my friends talking about busy season woes and I’m so grateful to not be in that position. I keep thinking of the long hours and it’s making me not want to job hunt. I’ve been looking at industry related tax roles, and generally like accounting but am open to exploration. Is there any such role that gives good comp, great work/life balance (I don’t even wanna be near 60 hours), and overall interesting role/company?

likefunny

Please help me to choose , super confused,
1)Epam Anywhere 32lpa fixed +70k joining bonus, permanent work from home 2) Capgemini 38 lpa 10% variable
I need work life balance .
Java developer having 8 years of experience.

like

What salary to expect at a Director level at PwC in Saudi Arabia? I am a brit with over 15 years experience in transformation consulting, and never worked in the ME!

like

I finally got a raise (after 10 years) from 45k to 50k with less than 10k in incentives while others who are just starting at lower positions make more than me..I want to bring this up but don’t want to come off in a bad way considering they finally gave me a raise this year.

like

Hi,

I’m approaching YE compensation discussions and was curious to see what folks/the industry are paying for institutional middle-market sales/distribution/business-development roles. I have 3yrs of experience with the same firm and am currently working as a sales analyst for the institutional sales team in NA. I have experience with traditional long only solutions, real estate (primarily value add funds), and a sector specific hedge fund. Any and all feedback is welcome!

like

When is salary credited in Publicis Sapient .. last day of month or first day of next month

like

About to head to the HC for a role in ProdOps and Strategy in Mountain View. 4 YoE at MBB, no competing offers. Recruiter gave me a form that asks expected comp.
Levels.fyi has only PM salaries. I haven’t been told the level but expect it to be L4.

What total comp would you expect for this role? Any advice would be super helpful, as I’m a bit lost.

like

Hey Fishes! What's the salary for assistant manager?

like
like

McKinsey & Company Hi Fishes, Working as Process & Proposal Engineer for Air Pollution Control equipments for various industries. Total experience is approx. 10 years. Now want to switch my career into EY, KPMG, BCG, McKinsey etc. for salary hikes and role change. Please guide me in this regard. BE (Mech), PG (Thermal), MBA (Marketing) Accenture, EY, KPMG, McKinsey & Company, Boston Consulting Group, Tata Consultancy, Capgemini, Cognizant

like

Currently interviewing for corporate development manager at a PE portco and would appreciate insight on reasonable comp expectations. TEV is ~$4b and they close about a dozen LMM deals per year. TIA!

like

Just started at an agency in NY as a resource associate (entry level) but starting to be unsure about salary band...what’s the industry standard against how many years of experience you have ?

More Posts

Why this group is so silent?

like

Really frustrated... 1 year at Globant. Very unprofessional person at product director level and his fake accent. Petty politics...he is promoting boot licking culture. His work is to manage WhatsApp and hangout group of BAs. Globant

Whatever mentioned about Talent pool policy is true? Globant Globant India Pvt. Ltd.

Post Photo

Hello,

After onboarding in Deloitte USI Hyderabad do we need to report immediately from next day to office as per hybrid model or we can continue wfh until assigned to project

like

Hi All,
I am worried about job security in H
Globant , i have joined in June and till now did not get any project 🥺 i am worried.

likesmart

Hi All, just sharing what on mind to vent it out from my system. Maybe with this I could gain some insights and inspiration.
I have been working as a data scientist since 2018 & have been the bread winner. I have neither been under a proper mentor nor with a team of peers from my field to help me out. I was alone and confused. I have never really got the chance to prove myself which makes me all the more depressed. I'm not sure what to do with my future, indecisive and low on confidence.

like

I am starting a new role with a new company and will have 6 direct reports. Although I have managed teams before in a consulting project setting, this will be the first time in industry. Any recommendations on how to sharpen my management skills (books, blogs, etc). Particularly looking at how to delegate effectively and practical examples on how to run day to day.

like

Finally getting around to getting a CS degree. Taking a class taught in Haskell and a class taught in JS. In other words, a purely functional language which you can basically read just by looking at type signatures, vs... just no.

Front end people, why?????

like

Starting apartment hunting in NYC soon. Any tips and recommendations for studios & 1 bedrooms in the city in terms of price range, ROI, neighborhood, down payment, best time to invest etc.

Anyone have a carry payout model they can share? Trying to build a few scenarios

like

How much CTC to expect for Team Lead and Solution Architect position in @EPAM (YOE: 12+, Skills: .NET)?

like

Hey Corporate Gang,

Help me unlock my DMs..

Thanks in advance!

like

Thank me later 😌 I am again on spamming spree here.

Post Photo
likefunny

Perfect gf
doesn't exis..... 🫣


He got a perfect one

Post Photo
like

Do you ever feel like there are rooms you’re locked out of? I’m a black woman, i lateraled to my group a few months ago with minimal onboarding and welcome. A white woman joined recently and everyone has bent over backwards to make her feel welcome and get her integrated into the group. People have invested less in me and it’s going to show in a few years when she’s up for partner and I’m still catching up.

like

Finished Rich Dad Poor Dad and appreciate the emphasis on creating alternative cash flows (vs. just income). Does anyone have book recommendations on creating wealth? I've focused heavily on income + 'safe' investing, but intrigued to learn more.

like

Does anyone have any fun online games to play with the team for well-being breaks?

like

Any new referrals for customer Service Manager in banking domain?

like

What are the healthcare options like in India? I'll be needing regular care and I'm not sure what the insurance providers are and if care works differently in general.

like

Additional Posts in Salary Negotiations

Hello all,

I have an Interview with Atlassian for a pre sales solutions engineer role in Canada that requires 5-8 YOE . What's the salary range I should be aiming for ?

like

I finally got a raise (after 10 years) from 45k to 50k with less than 10k in incentives while others who are just starting at lower positions make more than me..I want to bring this up but don’t want to come off in a bad way considering they finally gave me a raise this year.

like

If job posting pay was $36.66 hourly (no range) what would be an acceptable offer and counter offer?

like

Got an offer for Sr. Financial Analyst for 85k & 10% annual bonus. What's a good counteroffer? I told the recruiter 95k-110k when I first interviewed. This position is 100% remote, headquartered in VA. I live in NYC. Have roughly 2 YOE.

Thanks.

like

Im not sure but how much do normal warehouse managers make ? I work ina start up that a makes a substitute for peanut butter for people with nut allergies

like

For expert witnesses/lawyers

I’m a former forensic scientist that left the field several years ago. I recently received a subpoena from a case I worked and suggested to DA to have evidence re-worked by the lab or stipulation. If I am required to testify (as an expert witness), I would need to book a flight, hotel, etc. My question is this: can I ask for my requested hourly rate, travel, and hotel to be covered when speaking with DA or is that “not how this works” as the investigator put it?

like

Annual review coming up. Looking for suggestions for asks…

8 YOE, Current 125 base, TC ~140.

Median base for my title/geo ~170 (mean ~166, 0.75 ~226).

Certs: CIPM, M365 Security Admin/Architect, AWS SOA, AN, & Security.

Vet, Inactive TS.

Highlights of the year: flew out on 12hr notice to evac E Europe-based employees & families, plugged 3 exposures before they became breaches, built TVM/privacy program from scratch, onboarded new CNAPP.

(-) Still a student (GIB: BA/MS expected ‘24)

like

Any Hazmat drivers here? Just curious on the going salary for CDL A hazmat driver. Home just about every day. Off weekends. Any info would be appreciated.

like

Hi, offer coming through from AWS - is there scope for negotiation with them, or is the offer just the offer?

like

How realistic is it to land an AD position as a fresh grad (with a doctorates) and a handful of pharma & FDA interships? Context: I'll have over a year of (consistent) work experience at a large pharma company and I have prior leadership/mgt experience (< 10 yrs) in a gov't role prior to changing careers and pursuing a doctorates.

Also, whats the pay difference between Sr Manager and AD at a large pharma company? TIA!

like

I got an offer from Cigna are they typically open to negotiations on hourly pay? 👀👀👀👀 I just need like $3 more/hr… that’s it.

like

What is the average base salary for most account managers in the tech space?

like

Does anyone have suggestions for what a salary should be for a Digital Marketing Analyst | Paid Social & Performance Media? I have 1 year of experience, the job asks for 0-1 year of experience. I feel I over meet the qualifications in some areas and just meet them in others. The recruiter said 50k is the salary the company is offer. I know I can negotiate. What are your thoughts on what the salary should be?

like

What's the best form of compensation to ask for and why?

My employers' CEO just announced that they just received $7 million from investors. He wants to use that money to offer incentives to employees that hussle and drive more revenue for the company. We're not sure what those incentives look like yet, but here are some post-announcement rumors from my co-workers:

Cash bonuses, raises, profit-sharing, company equity, 401k match, etc.

like

What would everyone think would be a good salary for a senior manager of digital product and strategy for an established fintech company? Comparably has 179k base as the median. Recruiter mentioned 173 as their all in top.

like

Seeking input on entry-level salaries for grant writers! Please share with your location if you’re comfortable. TIA!

like

What is a good salary range for a Principal UX Designer with 15+ years of experience working in either Finance, Tech or Media industry in NYC?

like

Does anyone have salary information base for a UX Researcher at Meta?

like

I’ve been verbally offered a position at a new company, but the recruiter insists on getting a verbal acceptance before sending the offer in writing. This person insists on negotiating salary before sending the paperwork. Generic benefits, RSUs, bonus info have been provided; it’s all unofficial.

This is absurd. Am I missing some “new way” of doing things? Your take?

likehelpful

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal