YOE: 5 yrs,
Recent Grad - MBA .
After 2800 applications, got 2 offers:
- Project Manager at a 1000-employee startup (Atlanta) - TC: $120k.
- Sr Associate PM at BNY Mellon (Pittsburgh) - TC: $100k.

NEED ADVICE ON:
1. Is BNY's offer competitive, or should I negotiate further ?
2. What’s your advice on choosing brand vs. salary in the early stages of a mid career?
3. ERP software development vs. banking/financial services— which offers better long-term PM career progression and salary growth?

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Congrats on getting 2 offers. 2800 applications is a lot!

Have you checked out Glassdoor or levels.fyi or Teppers own salary data from recent grads against their BNY’s offers or peer banks? Those 3 sources should help you determine what is fair in this market for your experience level.

When I left business school I went to a slow growth fortune 50 company. I guess the brand helps, but it helped me get to another slow growth fortune 50 company?? The thing that I miss regret the most from going to these super large companies is that promotions are slow unless you are exceptional for that company. A rising tide lifts all boats. That said, a brand name should help if you want to work in a large business. I have experienced a lot who don’t seem to care either way.

If you want to stay in financial services, they tend to want to hire people with financial services experience. Not a hard and fast rule, but that requirement is in a lot of job reqs. The project manager role will lead to a program manager role not necessarily into product. You might be able to switch inside the company… that’s how I got into product.

Hope that helps. Good luck.

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Thank you so much for your advice. It definitely helps.

Definitely BNY, but they have to offer you more. They sure can match $120k

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