2 copywriting offers. Grey Health and 21 Grams.
Please help me figure out where to go :’(
Really don’t want to make a bad decision…

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Either one will have layoffs in October.

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What do you know?

Speaking semi-objectively as a grey health creative: we have an hungry and inspiring CCO in Bruno who wants to push boundaries and also understands the business of our industry (this isn’t Bruno btw!). No, we don’t have the recent creative fireworks of 21grams. But there’s so much potential to step in and make your own path here. And there’s very little political/relationship favoritism/nonsense to navigate, which I’ve heard is not always the case at 21, though I can’t speak to that directly (search on here, I’ve seen posts about it…standard disclaimer that everyone’s experience is different).

Also, sounds cliched af, but across the creative dept, really solid people/personalities. We collectively step up when others need help and during pitches, and there’s very little (if any) bitching and negativity. Plus relatively low turnover the past couple years compared to industry average.

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Any chance you want to dm me some contacts there?

As I commented earlier, I can’t speak to Grey but I can speak to Bruno. He’s hungry for great creative, absolutely fantastic to work with, and an amazing, super-down-to-earth human being.

Greg scored huge. I miss working with him.

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I spoke to the 21 grams founders a longgg time ago when they were just setting up, I didn’t realize they were healthcare so it wasn’t a match for me, but the chat felt genuine and they cared, I also saw they just brought home a gold lion for any small indie that’s a great effort. Don’t know anything about grey healthcare, I’m sure there’s good silos and lame silos within it

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21 grams

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21 grams, much better creative

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Grey! Then you have opportunities within all of Grey. Buddy of mine liked it there

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not 21 grams - someone committed suicide there who was a CW and they had a piss-poor response to it

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wait whaaaaaat? when was this?

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