2nd year Manager at EY, with 8 YOE. Evaluating two offers and need help:

1. Amazon - CSM (L5)
TC: 185k base + 30k bonus Year 1 (and 19k year 2)
18 RSUs to be vested across 4 years

2. Deloitte - Manager
TC: 210k base + 20k bonus

Roles are similar. 4 year return seems higher with Deloitte, considering the Base + Bonus structure. Also factoring the 15% stock increase. Added my pros and cons below, I may be wrong. Please help, need to make a decision soon.

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I left EY at M2 with 8 YOE for kpmg for slightly less than your Deloitte offer, which is very solid. Take the D.

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Amazon WLB is bad. This is not a mixed opinion. It’s objectively bad. The reason they changed the stock vesting to 4 years is bc people were burning out and quitting. I know at least 2 people who had mental/stress-induced breakdowns by working there.

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Yeah I heard this as well. My friend lasted 2 years before quitting Amazon media group (a better WLB group for the most part)

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186k base at Amazon? I thought the highest was 165k?

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NY as well

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Lol I don’t make as much as a D manager :,(

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$210k base as an M at Deloitte is insane. Take it. I’m M2 in Strategy practice with 9 YOE and MBA and don’t make anywhere near $210k base

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You might be coming in at top of band for m at d so raises will be limited.

Tough choice. Id probably take D though.

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Amazon all the way .... EY —> Deloitte is moving from one dirt to another

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I can only imagine that’s for Consulting M which is apparently like an Advisory SM, considering they are giving you $210k base. Not sure what service line you’re in but that sounds incredible. I am/was in Cyber at Deloitte, which is one of the highest paying service lines and Ms started around 140k

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Also don’t forget that there is no guarantee that the Amazon stock (or tech in general) will stay at this value forever.

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Better WLB at Amazon? My friends are miserable over there

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Let us know what you decided and why. Best of luck in your decision!

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Yeah, I share the opinion of some of the above D is the best offer. Best of luck!

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What group at Deloitte?

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What is the name of the position at Amazon? Are they looking for cloud implementation experience for this position?

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If you're not already from a consulting background, I'd vote for D. Great to have 3 yrs of consulting experience for exits, from what I'm seeing. Some of us have been here longer, not planning it out well.

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Come to Deloitte.

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Well D must really want you. If doing implementation for the, must be really hurting after the last massive firing where they got rid of people that had marketable skill other than consulting. A 210 base for M is very high there. It sounds like M&A implementation work as tech strat or cloud doesn't typically pay that well there. Even in NYC you normally cap at about 190 there.

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Cloud pays well at D if you’re experienced. 200k base was common at M level.

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Growth opportunity is high at amazon and stock appreciation will be more than 15% in 4 years. So I would say amazon. But be ready for the challenge. Amazon is going to be very different from any other company to work. The comp is good for a new joinee. I recently made L5 and make 180k base. I got a 120% increment on promotion. I doubt Deloitte can do that.

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He said INR - so Indian currency I believe

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Go for AWS, they are the cloud leaders. You will have a better exit

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How much are you making now as a Manager at EY

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I interned at Amazon and loved the product work but hated the culture. Wlb was alright but comp was so-so and coworkers were trash. Wouldn't recommend Deloitte either (biased since I'm SO over client services and all my fav coworkers have left)

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OP did you decide yet?

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