2nd year Manager at EY, with 8 YOE. Evaluating two offers and need help:

1. Amazon - CSM (L5)
TC: 185k base + 30k bonus Year 1 (and 19k year 2)
18 RSUs to be vested across 4 years

2. Deloitte - Manager
TC: 210k base + 20k bonus

Roles are similar. 4 year return seems higher with Deloitte, considering the Base + Bonus structure. Also factoring the 15% stock increase. Added my pros and cons below, I may be wrong. Please help, need to make a decision soon.

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I left EY at M2 with 8 YOE for kpmg for slightly less than your Deloitte offer, which is very solid. Take the D.

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Amazon WLB is bad. This is not a mixed opinion. It’s objectively bad. The reason they changed the stock vesting to 4 years is bc people were burning out and quitting. I know at least 2 people who had mental/stress-induced breakdowns by working there.

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Yeah I heard this as well. My friend lasted 2 years before quitting Amazon media group (a better WLB group for the most part)

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OP can you share how was your CSM loop interview experience? Do they expect you to be very technical?

How do you find out what level - L5/L6 are the positions for? Is this Sr vs Principal?

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That's really insanely high for L5. Highly depends on country of course, but I can assure you, that I'm super sad right now, looking at my L5 salary 😂

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Op how are you finding amazon? How is the WLB?

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Check yo maf.

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If Amazon is hybrid do not take it. The stress of the commute to work is not worth it.

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Does being a people manager influence Levels at all? I am interviewing for a Sr. Program Manager (non-tech) role that requires +5 years of program management experience and +5 years of people management experience. I am guessing it would be at least an L6 maybe L7? 14 YOE and 8 as a people manager

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Amazon is not a very good environment. If mental health and work life balance play any part in this decision I would try and avoid Amazon.

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What country or office is this. Pick Deloitte

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You will make more than me - a 3.5 year sm with 14 yoe

I was told 185k is top of the top for mgr, two months back at D

I had a offer at Manager level in 2018 with 200 base, Deloitte

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