401k: Pre-tax or Roth? And why? I'm a non-US citizen .

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

401k limit is 18k. That can be put towards a Roth 401k or a traditional 401k or a mixture of both. The combined total cannot exceed 18k in most circumstances

The IRA limit is 5500. Again, that can be put towards Roth or traditional or a mixture. There's an AGI limit on Roth (it's around 120k I believe) that makes it not possible to contribute to Roth for some. Also, if you have a company 401k, you lose the tax deduction benefit of a traditional IRA after a certain AGI as well (it's like 60k or something similar)

like

You guys are wrong. Read this http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/23/your-money/401ks-and-similar-plans/irs-ruling-makes-after-tax-contributions-more-attractive.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share

like

Unless you plan to stay in the country it's probably not worth the time/cost

like

$5500 is The cap for a Roth IRA but I've put more than that in my Roth 401K. Don't know what the actual limit is

like

I am not sure you should speculate about us tax rule changes. My current (I'm not in Deloitte any more) employer allows 18k pre and 20k post in the 401k

like

D2-That's wrong. It's an IRS limit of 18k this year and 2017 combined.

like

It's 53k. But it needs to be enabled by an employer.

like

It's really employers choosing to do that my employer has a very generous match therefore the participation rate is high and they can do it. Most employers have lower participation rates which preclude higher investments.

like

I would research back door 401k. Might be possible to Roth IRA through ira but that is painful and capped at lower levels. The Roth IRA cap is independent of the 401k cap though.

like

Ok S1, read this - http://www.madfientist.com/after-tax-contributions/ you can do it

like

Roth because I firmly believe taxes will be raised substantially in the coming years due to our looming debt crisis

Both. Good to have a mix. In retirement, there is a certain point when you have to withdraw a minimum amount. The Roth gives you some tax protection later.

You're only eligible for Roth if you make under a certain threshold and the annual maximum you can invest is $5500 per year. I'm sure others can further explain and add in the missing details. Pre tax limit is $18,000 (I believe) for 2016.

There's the same cap for Roth 401k. If you do both, combined can't go over $18k.

Also, no salary threshold for Roth 401k

Is Roth 401k the same as Post Tax 401k? I have 3 options to invest in: Pre Tax 401k, Post Tax 401k, and I have a Roth IRA account at Edward Jones.

Not sure if all of that is entirely true? However, I may be getting lost in semantics. Pre tax 401k contribution maximum is 18k. You can then continue to contribute towards a post tax 401k contribution and the limit there is roughly 52k I think. Can anyone confirm this is true?

That is not true, S&1. You can only contribute 18k per year total to your 401k account through your job, and the maximum applies whether you choose post tax, pre tax, or a mix of both.

D2 - 401k contribution limits are set by the government and are the same for all companies that offer a retirement plan. You can only contribute 18k annually (increases every couple years or so), whether pretax or post tax. You may be thinking about their matching contribution? Or something else? But you cannot contribute more than 18k without your plan breaking the law.

I mean 18k for 2016. And another 18k for 2017. Traditional/pretax and Roth/post tax combined.

Related Posts

Bain & Company Hello Fishes.

What is the average CTC offered for a Research Associate with 1 year of experience in Healthcare consulting?

I'm looking forward for opportunities, hence would be great to know the current CTC trends to effectively negotiate with the employer.

Thanks in advance!

Novartis Eli Lilly and Company EY WNS Global Services ZS Associates Clarivate Analytics Bain & Company Prescient Healthcare Group Axtria Sg analytics pvt ltd Course5i Trinity Consulting

likesmart

Thoughts on Marcus vs. Ally vs. Wealthfront? Looking for a place to park my emergency savings

Anyone has experience in investing through Angellist?

Offer included temporary housing and moving expense reimbursement…it’s been a month since I began working and 2 months since I started moving but still no reimbursement…should I escalate this? How long is too long?

like

Guys, can you list down your experience in working with EY, which you are missing in your previous job. Or, something good at your previous job which is missing in EY. Please comment those. It can be anything like good project, managers, WFH, benefits, flexibilities, Hi, 

I want to cancel this 200Rs Netflix membership for this month. How to change this in my card settings, I am not able to find the settings in ICICI website to cancel this. 

like

For a 2-year associate now tasked with senior-like roles such as reviewing and training, does anyone have advice on how to review individual hnw tax returns?

like

Here a European from one of those communist countries who use taxes to have free ish healthcare and that.

I'm about to move to the US and just realised that paid holidays are not a thing there. What's the deal? Some agencies better than others? Can I get days even if I don't get paid? So much to do outside of work, I need dayzzzz

like

If you contribute partially to traditional 401k & partially to Roth 401k at your company, does it get confusing at all when it comes time to withdraw? Is it better to (cont.)

like
like

I have 10k extra to invest. How should I grow it? Any growth stocks to recommend?

likehelpful

What's next after healthcare for you all?

like

I’m working at an insurance defense firm, trying to target my practice to L&E. I’m overworked and underpaid, but gaining valuable experience I hope to pivot toward an eventual in-house counsel position. I recently was offered an opportunity to lateral to a national firm for a significant pay increase (150% salary increase, much better benefits, hybrid WFH options). Problem-I would be shifting gears to Toxic Tort. I’m torn between my passion and the money. I’m a second year associate. WWYD?

like

Need to urgently find a 500k job. Can't keep up with mortgages with anything less. Any advice?

likefunny

For those that have physical gold in their portfolio, what do you buy? What do you think is the best value? Coins? Bars? Other? And what weight increments do you usually buy?

like

Thoughts on buying into Wells Fargo now, at their 52 week low basically.. Bank too big to fail of course and their imposed caps on grown expire in a year or 2 I believe with regards to how much $$$ they can lend out or take in...

like

Looking to buy a model Y. Test drive it yesterday. Feels a bit sporty (not luxury comfy). Debating:
(1) lease vs. buy. Thoughts?
(2) is the $10K investment in FSD even worth it? I think no.

Hi All, I am working as Consultant in Deloitte USI since 3+ years and now wish to make a change.

I got an offer from BNY Mellon for 28 LPA for Senior Associate 1 position as a Backend Developer. Is BNY a good company considering I am already working as a Full Stack Dev in Deloitte ? Please help and also plz add some points related to benefits, work life balance, quality of work, etc.

like

What’s everyone using instead of Robinhood? I just learned of WeBull recently but am not sure it’s for me.

like

For the educational program reimbursement, after it's approved, do we get reimbursed with our next paycheck?

like

More Posts

Hi,
Currently I'm working as Server administrator for 3 years, I want switch my job for better opportunity and salary hike if any opening is three plz consider my profile, and plz suggest me some skill set for my career growth .

like

Anyone joining PwC AC Banglore on 6th September?
Have you got any mail for a laptop or any onboarding details?

like

Hi,
Only hdfc bank accounts can be given as salary account in Pwc AC ? Is it like that?
I have Axis Bank account.

like

Hi all,
I need your favour here.
Do anyone has job referral for Business Analyst profile?

About me: 3.4yrs of workex-
Worked as a Sales Manager and across sales-Ops. 75% Team management+ 25% Data analysis and interpretation
Want to shift towards more data driven role.
I know advance Excel and SQL fundamentals.
Last drawn Ctc: 14lpa fixed

Any leads/suggestions would be helpful.

Thankyou :-)

like

Hello Folks,

Could anyone help with referral in ESG domain? More so around the audit and reprting side of it.

Quick background - i am a chartered accountant with 6+ yoe in audit, accounting, reporting and transfer pricing.

Hi I Have offer from BNP and Capgemini Pay is almost similar, Which one will be wise decision to join.

like

Hi Guys,

Can I get some refferal for Cloud Automation fields : VCenter, Powershell, Azure...
Application Development : .net , C#, javascript, html, css...

Currently I am on notice period. With total experience of 3 years 10 months.

Also please give some idea of what CTC should I expect....

like

Does anyone else find it absolutely hysterical that people group MBB/FAANG/PE/VC for the prestige-oriented folks and they never include BB IB 🤣

likehelpful

What is the expexted salary range for a 12 year exp in PWC AC in SAP Funtional domain?

like

Does the Amex corporate green card qualify for the $100 CLEAR statement credit?

like

Does GSK provide wfh opportunities? How is the SLB like? What is the expected salary range for 8 relevant yoe in pharma business analytics. 4 yrs ZS, 4 yrs Novartis launch excellence and brand analytics

It's my first day at a different big 4 than my tag and the only thing I have to do is an hour zoom call, then the next two days are 3 hr zoom calls. Is this normal? PwC had me doing 9 hrs of training the first day lol

helpfullike

I am a regional controller for a hospitality group. I began looking for a job in a different industry, but have hit some roadblocks with trying to communicate transferable skills and management style (decentralized). Any recommendations?

like

Hi! Would anyone at Ceros Inc be willing to answer questions about a remote position? It’s been over a week so interviews or hiring for it may have started. Thank you!

like

I’m shooting for the moon and applying to jobs I am mentally ready for and can qualify for but my resume is very short sweet and to the point because I’ve worked at the same place for 6 year and climbed the ladder & wanting something new. How do I explain that to my future employer?

like

Love is Dead!

likefunny

I’m so honored and excited to offer 5 complimentary, one-on-one, 60 minute career breakthrough sessions to the over responsible organizational development professional who is ready to stop chasing permission, perfection and people pleasing and identify what they want and how to get it. Let me know if your interested. It’ll be fun and informative. I can’t wait to support you in up-leveling your career!

likefunny

I feel like every company lies about “working your way up.” You’re never allowed to blatantly say that you don’t like your position and you’d like to transition to HR or Finance. It’s almost as if once you get in claims, you’re stuck.

If you’re a manager and you see an employee that wants to branch out into a different department, why would you keep them boxed in for 2+ years?

Are there some background mechanics that I’m missing?

like

Waiting for AIP and hike??

like

Additional Posts in Consulting

Anyone take the job for the travel benefits and then had no travel projects.... can't figure out if I should be annoyed or if it's a blessing in disguise

like

How rare is it for a consulting firm to hire someone who doesn't want to relocate to one of their offices but can still travel to clients? Interested in a firm that doesn't have an office in my city

like

Is it naive to hope that there could be a job out there that I actually LIKE doing as opposed to just forcing myself to do it for the paycheck? I work for a great company with (mostly) great people but still find myself wishing I could be doing anything else throughout the workday. After a number of different jobs in industry and consulting have left me feeling the same after a year or so, I'm starting to wonder if it'll always be this way and actually liking work is just out of reach.

likefunny

What are the best data privacy certs to aim for? 4 year exp in cyber risk consulting. Want to move to a privacy related role outside the big 4. Should I go for the CDPSE or CIPP or CIPM?

like

Here's a question I wish I never had to ask. Is it better to use the code for bereavement leave or just burn pto I'm going to lose anyway? Does it make a difference from a utilization standpoint?

like
like

What is everyone’s top 1 or 2 favorite books on personal finance? I’m always looking for a new one to bring into the fold of what I’m doing

like

STARTUP FOUNDERS and FAANG: would you rather hire MBB with 3-4 years of exp or Tier 2 with 5-6 years? If you could isolate those variables and everything else held constant.

like

Applied for a role at Strategy& US. Know how long they’ll take to get back to me? Would love to know if I’ve been granted an interview or rejected out right.

like

How are exit opportunities for Risk Advisory (Cyber & Strategy risks) at a Big4 ?
Currently pursuing an internship and wondering if I'll have trouble shifting to Management Consulting after my bachelors.
I unfortunately never got any MBB Internship offer when applying, so I accepted one from a Big4 hoping it would give me experience and networking opportunities. Love it so far, but curious as what should I do to truly increase my chances of getting into Management Consulting.

like

Applied for EYP TSE Operation Analytics Senior and had a initial screening call with EYP recruiter two weeks ago but she has been ignoring my follow up email and hasn't been responding since. Is it normal or I'm no longer in their consideration already?

Also wondering if anyone from that practice is willing to connect? I'm currently in DDV and very good at Alteryx and Tableau, so want to make the switch.

like

McKinsey fish: any cool perks of note that make it stand out? Have a final round interview coming up and wondering if there are any that are better than Accenture (travel benefits, etc)

like

Overnight layover with some buddies in Doha - any suggestions for St Regis or the W? Landing around 11pm and leaving at 9am we just want to go clubbing and party before the next flight.

like

MDs, SMs, Partners, etc

How do you bring in clients/business if the client is not already in your network/rolodex? What are your tips and tricks?

Thank you!

like

Anyone have any recs for self help books? Looking for more relatable topics to myself I guess?

like

What are some major red flags that should cause you to turn and RUN when interviewing for a consulting role?

like

Almost 4YOE at Big 4 TAS. Seen high turnovers this year. Thoughts on the following options: FPA vs. CorpDev vs. MM IB vs. MBA to BB/EB or MBB?

like

Does anyone have 120K bonvoy points they’re willing to sell? How much?

like

Anyone ever work for Optiv? Money any good?

like

Deloitte 🐠 - did anyone receive an invite from a partner recently as "Conversation with X"?
Consulting CBO AMI (fka SE) if that helps

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal