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About to head to the HC for a role in ProdOps and Strategy in Mountain View. 4 YoE at MBB, no competing offers. Recruiter gave me a form that asks expected comp.
Levels.fyi has only PM salaries. I haven’t been told the level but expect it to be L4.
What total comp would you expect for this role? Any advice would be super helpful, as I’m a bit lost.
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Reminds me of the final year project my team and I worked on. Built a remote controlled“micro-unmanned aerial vehicle” and detailed some use cases/applications for it. Way way way before drones became consumer products. I genuinely thought we had something promising in our hands and wanted to push for a patent but neither my mentor nor my team wanted to put in the leg work for it. I started doing this myself but then landed a job and priorities shifted. Only to find out these damn things were going to become super popular years later.
So it’s not only you. But it’s also not only you that’s coming up with these great ideas. People have great ideas all the time. Executing on them is a whole another ball game. So is scaling it. So what you’re not doing is taking on the risk involved with execution. Maybe try this with one of your ideas. Take it as far as you can before your risk controls kick in.
Great response D1! We watch shark tank all the time and have new ideas from time to time, but we both have full time jobs that we passionately pursue & not enough motivation to push the ideas further to implementation. But, we also mock ourselves while watching shark tank for doing nothing about those ideas. You really articulated that so well!
It shows that action is more important than knowledge. What prevented you from taking action on that idea? For most people it’s fear.
I came up with the basic idea of Pinterest about 5 years before it was created and everyone laughed at me when I shared it with them. I let myself get discouraged by people who couldn't see the vision and I let go of the idea.
Maybe start patenting those ideas so you can still profit from them? It also takes work but you don't have to actually fully develop it.
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I have never once had a good idea.
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Same
I shame myself while watching shark tank
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Ideas are free.
I have a great idea too. I think I’m going with orange chicken instead of Beijing beef today.
I have an idea: it’s a credit card for movie theaters that you pay $120 a year for but you can go to as many times as you want
How about then a restaurant where you can pay a subscription but eat as much as you want?
Anyone can have a brilliant idea but not many can execute and pull it off commercially
Ideas are nothing without a strong founding team. There’s plenty of incubators these days that will literally vet out an idea and then pay a founder capital to go try to build it. The idea isn’t the true value creator
Think the average unicorn founder is like 35? Never too old!
I had a dream 20 years ago for a digital jukebox in my house where you could play any song. I assumed at the time that it would be near impossible because I knew music rights were very complicated. And I was worried nobody liked music as much as I did that they would care to have access to every song. . . . Damn.
Remember that many companies, including Spotify and Uber, just outright ignored standing legal rights. They just changed the landscape by being so big, people had to deal with them
What’s your next great idea? Let’s work together to make it a reality and help you break free from the yoke of the American dream trap 🪤
+1, I’m willing to join and help too if we do have an idea. Hopefully something they helps the society too!
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Willingness to take personal risk is the ingredient you are missing. You probably have the connections to get started, but your well paying job and mortgage tie you down, a slave to the corporation.
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Lol yeah
Yeeeaars ago before Netflix existed and before they transitioned from mailing movies out to being online, I was working for a cable company and I spoke to one of our leaders about moving videos to the internet. I’m a huge movie buff and thought hey wouldn’t be cool to basically be able to click on a tile and my movie is right there. I was told it could never happen because it would be too expensive, servers would never handle it, amongst a host of other reason why we couldn’t. Well well well, about 10 years later, boom Netflix is on the TV and apple allowed you to buy and rent. Oh well.
Meanwhile I was a teenager at home on a 900MHz wireless internet connection downloading movies all day long. They should’ve asked me instead of sending notices to my ISP
Ideas are in abundace, implementation and risk taking abilities are scarce. And what’s that old saying? Does who can’t, consult.
In the same moment you have the idea, there’s probably at least 100 people out there who have thought about something similar. It comes down to if you’re actually going to do something about it and if you are in the right place at the right time with the right people. Startups have so many ways to fail before they even get to series A.
Some people just aren’t entrepreneurial when it comes down to it, which is why PE still remains a popular path to try and achieve riches. Hindsight is also 20/20 and it’s similar to saying “if only I had held Amazon for 20 years”
No, but before the craft brewery boom I was already a very accomplished homebrewer, I tried to convince the only few people with money I knew to come aboard with me but everyone thought I was crazy.
If I had a house at the time I would. I now get oaid to work for breweries.
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1000 people had the idea for uber.
a couple made it (and lyft).
“if you were the inventor of facebook, you would’ve invented facebook.”
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In 2007 I wanted an app that connected me with local people that were willing to be the DD for the weekend house parties.
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Mad Men also had a great line about this from Pete Campbell:
“You know what? I have good ideas. In fact, I used to carry around a notebook and a pen, just to keep track. Direct marketing? I thought of that. It turned out it already existed, but I arrived at it independently.”
I invented the Grubhub type delivery model in college. People crapped all over me saying cheap delivery would never work.
Ide rather have a VC firm pay me millions for a half baked idea than trudge through the muck of consulting 😅
Worked on a prototype similar to apple airtags in 2012. We were starting to get somewhere but priorities shifted and some had children, others moved, and all of us had day jobs and weren’t in a position to work on the idea full time.
It’s very challenging to take on that risk when still financially dependent on employers and squeezed for time