anyone successfully negotiate future rank into offer? Interviewed for senior consultant role. Was Offered job but they stated they would meet my salary requirement by making me manager in a year. I’m still negotiating a 10% bump (I’ll take what I get during these times).

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If it’s not in writing a promise means nothing

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I interviewed someone a while back. The person is not on par for the position and we offered her one rank down. The recruiter somehow convinced her to join with the promise of a promotion within a year, some % on bonus and also a green card application immediately. The recruiter then didn’t tell any of us about those promises.
She raised these promises after a year with us and I am now dealing with all these.

If it’s not written down anywhere, nothing is guaranteed. Recruiters do not have any power to promise anything nor make it happen after you join.

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If it’s not documented, it doesn’t exist

Lol, guaranteed promotion. If you’re enough of a sucker to believe it, then take it. Food for thought, let’s say you had some sort of similar agreement a year ago, do you think most companies would honor it today?

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